>
> Is that accurate?

Yes.

I think one TAG review would be ok.


One TAG review requested
<https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/744>.

I personally thought your explainers were quite readable and nice
>

Thanks!

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:15 PM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:40 AM 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev <
> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Yes, I can initiate TAG review. Would it work for you if I initiated one
>> TAG review-request that referenced all four intents? Or alternatively, four
>> TAG requests?
>>
>
> I think one TAG review would be ok. All of these intents look to be hints
> presented to the UA to help the UA's UI be easier for the user to
> navigate/avoid pitfalls. Is that accurate?
>
> If so, they also seem quite low risk and simple to review as well.
>
>
>> My own feeling is that a joint explainer might be a bit confusing, since
>> the four surfaces are not very closely related. I don't feel strongly about
>> this, however, and I can set up a joint explainer if you don't think it
>> would lead to confusion.
>>
>
> I personally thought your explainers were quite readable and nice, and
> agree with you that they make sense when read individually.
>
>
>>
>> Full disclosure: There's also a fifth one in the pipeline which I've not
>> yet sent because the PR
>> <https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/pull/225> has not
>> yet been merged.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elad
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 6:13 PM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Elad,
>>>
>>> This is a pretty simple design, and it's great to see the progress here.
>>> That said, this group of intents (systemAudio, suppressLocalAudioPlayback,
>>> and selfBrowserSurface) would benefit from a joint explainer with
>>> considered alternatives outlined. The TAG might not have much to say about
>>> small changes, but our process asks teams to *at least *send them an
>>> FYI for non-controversial updates so that they can consider how parts fit
>>> together in future.
>>>
>>> Given that the WebRTC group has a history of trying to skip TAG review,
>>> it doesn't seem right for this set of features to launch without some
>>> intentional design review. Can you file a request with them or get several
>>> of the current and former TAG members (Rossen, David, Alice, myself, or
>>> Domenic) in the project to review the design directly?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:35:24 AM UTC-7 Elad Alon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've set my alarm.
>>>> I'll implicitly assume the same period is intended for the other three
>>>> intents-to-ship sent at roughly the same time.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:29 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's give them 1 more week to respond.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:21 AM Elad Alon <elada...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, will do. (I've also sent a personal email on the day the intent
>>>>>> went out.)
>>>>>> When shall I ping this thread if no response is received?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 8:30 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:38:53 PM UTC+2 Elad Alon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact emailselada...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q3oGy7hLJmdQA4ZK7QG7DnwgtcpL6oB2pqLQJ6MP1tY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/pull/222/files
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hint indicating to the user agent whether the application, upon
>>>>>>>> calling getDisplayMedia() with {audio: true} or similar, wishes *system
>>>>>>>> audio* to be offered to the user. (If not - only offer tab-audio.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink
>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG reviewN/A. This is just an addition of a single flag to an
>>>>>>>> existing dictionary, following well-known patterns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/638)
>>>>>>>> Jan-Ivar Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both
>>>>>>>> collaborated with us closely in shaping this PR. They have then 
>>>>>>>> approved
>>>>>>>> merging this PR into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is implicit
>>>>>>>> support, so I'd consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the time of 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> writing, the official request for position has not yet been answered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2022-May/032247.html)
>>>>>>>> Jan-Ivar Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both
>>>>>>>> collaborated with us closely in shaping this PR. They have then 
>>>>>>>> approved
>>>>>>>> merging this PR into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is implicit
>>>>>>>> support, so I'd consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the time of 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> writing, the official request for position has not yet been answered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While encouraging, neither counts as a positive position based on
>>>>>>> https://bit.ly/blink-signals
>>>>>>> It might be good to give them a few more days to chime in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive Endorsed by Google Meet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This feature can only be used by Web applications to REDUCE the
>>>>>>>> amount of private information they obtain from the user. As such, this 
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> net security gain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?No. Supported
>>>>>>>> on all platforms that support getDisplayMedia. (Namely, all desktop
>>>>>>>> platforms.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>> ?No
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1329129
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4649448880734208
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/zUJh3aXAC3k
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
>>>>>>>>
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