On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:02 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Can you expand on how (if) this is different from the past intent > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/f_x-iPGZSPg/m/8vHlOIsDAgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > with a similar title? > The only change to the OT parameters was that the milestones were adjusted from 124 => 135 to 126 => 137 to align with our internal launch schedule. I entered this information into the tool before generating this email, but now I don't see it anywhere. I wonder if I need to file a bug on this. m. > > On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:21:48 PM UTC+2 Mike Taylor wrote: > >> FWIW, a deprecation trial can surpass 6 milestones - but they require >> sufficient justification as well as 3 LGTMs. >> >> That said, I'm not sure I understand the request here. I read the linked >> "Chrome Camera and Mic Previews" document, but I think the Rollout plan >> section is assuming more info than I have. Could you explain how this >> feature and PEPC relate, and why having them work together is a bad thing? >> Do you plan to deprecate one of the features once the Deprecation Trial is >> finished? (Or are you just requesting an Origin Trial to temporarily >> disable something, and expect it to be re-enabled in the future?) >> >> Something that approaches an Explainer would probably be helpful here - >> thanks! >> >> On 5/10/24 5:05 PM, mark a. foltz wrote: >> >> I'm fine with shortening the trial, as long as extensions are possible in >> case we need longer to ship a long-term solution. >> >> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:40 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Contact emails mfo...@chromium.org, bryantchand...@chromium.org >>>> >>>> Explainer None >>>> >>>> Specification >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit >>>> >>>> Design docs >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> Allow coordination between sites using Page Embedded Permissions >>>> Controls and concurrent experiments with the camera and microphone >>>> permissions UI in Chrome. >>>> >>>> >>>> Blink component Blink>MediaStream >>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMediaStream> >>>> >>>> TAG review None >>>> >>>> TAG review status Not applicable >>>> >>>> Chromium Trial Name MediaPreviewsOptOutPersistent >>>> >>>> Origin Trial documentation link >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> WebFeature UseCounter name kOBSOLETE_PageDestruction >>>> >>>> Risks >>>> >>>> >>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>> >>>> None as this feature concerns the functionality of Chrome's permissions >>>> UI, and does not change the behavior of the APIs that are gated by it: >>>> navigator.mediaDevices.enumerateDevices and >>>> navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia Other browsers implement their own >>>> permissions UIs independently of Chrome. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gecko*: N/A >>>> >>>> *WebKit*: N/A >>>> >>>> *Web developers*: No signals >>>> >>>> *Other signals*: >>>> >>>> Ergonomics >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> >>>> Activation >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> >>>> Security >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> >>>> WebView application risks >>>> >>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>>> >>>> None >>>> >>>> >>>> Goals for experimentation >>>> >>>> Ongoing technical constraints >>>> >>>> There are no plans to add media previews to Chrome on platforms other >>>> than Windows/Mac/Linux. >>>> >>>> >>>> Debuggability >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> >>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No >>>> >>>> There are currently no plans to launch previews outside of >>>> Windows/Mac/Linux. >>>> >>>> >>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>> ? No >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> >>>> DevTrial instructions https://tinyurl.com/yc6mvth8 >>>> >>>> Flag name on chrome://flags --enable-features=camera-mic-preview >>>> >>>> Finch feature name CameraMicPreview >>>> >>>> Requires code in //chrome? False >>>> >>>> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/330762482 >>>> >>>> Launch bug https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4304480 >>>> >>>> Estimated milestones >>>> Origin trial desktop first 126 >>>> Origin trial desktop last 137 >>>> DevTrial on desktop 122 >>>> >>> >>> According to >>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial, >>> deprecation trials should only run for up to 6 milestones before an >>> extension is required, so this may need to be adjusted >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5100528783851520?gate=5123374989967360 >>>> >>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHFcLM%3DgkSy9F%2BeAZ4KiW4zyXXfZQ-eKzuNoo109czCHFA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHFcLM%3DgkSy9F%2BeAZ4KiW4zyXXfZQ-eKzuNoo109czCHFA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHF9J0-ToRM%3DpA%2B4YUz2bksCuWMaKNo%3D3Z%2BphQd%3Dz%2BDmtQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CALgg%2BHF9J0-ToRM%3DpA%2B4YUz2bksCuWMaKNo%3D3Z%2BphQd%3Dz%2BDmtQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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