On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:02 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Can you expand on how (if) this is different from the past intent
> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/f_x-iPGZSPg/m/8vHlOIsDAgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> with a similar title?
>

The only change to the OT parameters was that the milestones were adjusted
from 124 => 135 to 126 => 137 to align with our internal launch schedule.

I entered this information into the tool before generating this email, but
now I don't see it anywhere.  I wonder if I need to file a bug on this.

m.


>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:21:48 PM UTC+2 Mike Taylor wrote:
>
>> FWIW, a deprecation trial can surpass 6 milestones - but they require
>> sufficient justification as well as 3 LGTMs.
>>
>> That said, I'm not sure I understand the request here. I read the linked
>> "Chrome Camera and Mic Previews" document, but I think the Rollout plan
>> section is assuming more info than I have. Could you explain how this
>> feature and PEPC relate, and why having them work together is a bad thing?
>> Do you plan to deprecate one of the features once the Deprecation Trial is
>> finished? (Or are you just requesting an Origin Trial to temporarily
>> disable something, and expect it to be re-enabled in the future?)
>>
>> Something that approaches an Explainer would probably be helpful here -
>> thanks!
>>
>> On 5/10/24 5:05 PM, mark a. foltz wrote:
>>
>> I'm fine with shortening the trial, as long as extensions are possible in
>> case we need longer to ship a long-term solution.
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:40 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emails mfo...@chromium.org, bryantchand...@chromium.org
>>>>
>>>> Explainer None
>>>>
>>>> Specification
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit
>>>>
>>>> Design docs
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Allow coordination between sites using Page Embedded Permissions
>>>> Controls and concurrent experiments with the camera and microphone
>>>> permissions UI in Chrome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blink component Blink>MediaStream
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMediaStream>
>>>>
>>>> TAG review None
>>>>
>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>
>>>> Chromium Trial Name MediaPreviewsOptOutPersistent
>>>>
>>>> Origin Trial documentation link
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> WebFeature UseCounter name kOBSOLETE_PageDestruction
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> None as this feature concerns the functionality of Chrome's permissions
>>>> UI, and does not change the behavior of the APIs that are gated by it:
>>>> navigator.mediaDevices.enumerateDevices and
>>>> navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia Other browsers implement their own
>>>> permissions UIs independently of Chrome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gecko*: N/A
>>>>
>>>> *WebKit*: N/A
>>>>
>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>
>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>
>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Activation
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Security
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>
>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Goals for experimentation
>>>>
>>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>
>>>> There are no plans to add media previews to Chrome on platforms other
>>>> than Windows/Mac/Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>>
>>>> There are currently no plans to launch previews outside of
>>>> Windows/Mac/Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ? No
>>>>
>>>> N/A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DevTrial instructions https://tinyurl.com/yc6mvth8
>>>>
>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags --enable-features=camera-mic-preview
>>>>
>>>> Finch feature name CameraMicPreview
>>>>
>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>
>>>> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/330762482
>>>>
>>>> Launch bug https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4304480
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>> Origin trial desktop first 126
>>>> Origin trial desktop last 137
>>>> DevTrial on desktop 122
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to
>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial,
>>> deprecation trials should only run for up to 6 milestones before an
>>> extension is required, so this may need to be adjusted
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5100528783851520?gate=5123374989967360
>>>>
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