LGTM to experiment with the new milestones (126 to 137)

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 4:52 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:02 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Can you expand on how (if) this is different from the past intent
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/f_x-iPGZSPg/m/8vHlOIsDAgAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>> with a similar title?
>>
>
> The only change to the OT parameters was that the milestones were adjusted
> from 124 => 135 to 126 => 137 to align with our internal launch schedule.
>
> I entered this information into the tool before generating this email, but
> now I don't see it anywhere.  I wonder if I need to file a bug on this.
>
> m.
>
>
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:21:48 PM UTC+2 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, a deprecation trial can surpass 6 milestones - but they require
>>> sufficient justification as well as 3 LGTMs.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm not sure I understand the request here. I read the linked
>>> "Chrome Camera and Mic Previews" document, but I think the Rollout plan
>>> section is assuming more info than I have. Could you explain how this
>>> feature and PEPC relate, and why having them work together is a bad thing?
>>> Do you plan to deprecate one of the features once the Deprecation Trial is
>>> finished? (Or are you just requesting an Origin Trial to temporarily
>>> disable something, and expect it to be re-enabled in the future?)
>>>
>>> Something that approaches an Explainer would probably be helpful here -
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> On 5/10/24 5:05 PM, mark a. foltz wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm fine with shortening the trial, as long as extensions are possible
>>> in case we need longer to ship a long-term solution.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:39 PM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:40 PM mark a. foltz <mfo...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Contact emails mfo...@chromium.org, bryantchand...@chromium.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Explainer None
>>>>>
>>>>> Specification
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> Design docs
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary
>>>>>
>>>>> Allow coordination between sites using Page Embedded Permissions
>>>>> Controls and concurrent experiments with the camera and microphone
>>>>> permissions UI in Chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink component Blink>MediaStream
>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMediaStream>
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review None
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable
>>>>>
>>>>> Chromium Trial Name MediaPreviewsOptOutPersistent
>>>>>
>>>>> Origin Trial documentation link
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZnX2JROjr9l4y2_OPMpfVlLOo-A5cQzD4mWarj9kXQ0/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> WebFeature UseCounter name kOBSOLETE_PageDestruction
>>>>>
>>>>> Risks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> None as this feature concerns the functionality of Chrome's
>>>>> permissions UI, and does not change the behavior of the APIs that are 
>>>>> gated
>>>>> by it: navigator.mediaDevices.enumerateDevices and
>>>>> navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia Other browsers implement their own
>>>>> permissions UIs independently of Chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Gecko*: N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> *WebKit*: N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>>
>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Activation
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Security
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Goals for experimentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no plans to add media previews to Chrome on platforms other
>>>>> than Windows/Mac/Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>>>
>>>>> There are currently no plans to launch previews outside of
>>>>> Windows/Mac/Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>> ? No
>>>>>
>>>>> N/A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DevTrial instructions https://tinyurl.com/yc6mvth8
>>>>>
>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags --enable-features=camera-mic-preview
>>>>>
>>>>> Finch feature name CameraMicPreview
>>>>>
>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/330762482
>>>>>
>>>>> Launch bug https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4304480
>>>>>
>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>> Origin trial desktop first 126
>>>>> Origin trial desktop last 137
>>>>> DevTrial on desktop 122
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to
>>>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial,
>>>> deprecation trials should only run for up to 6 milestones before an
>>>> extension is required, so this may need to be adjusted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5100528783851520?gate=5123374989967360
>>>>>
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