On 12/1/12, Branko Čibej <[email protected]> wrote: > On 01.12.2012 17:41, Olemis Lang wrote: >> On 12/1/12, Branko Čibej <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 01.12.2012 07:41, Olemis Lang wrote: > [...] > >> Instead of «supporting non-JS clients» maybe it's more accurate to say >> «not to turn non-JS clients unusable» since the idea is not to spend >> time developing a marvelous non-JS experience . The idea consists in >> providing quick navigation paths so that such users will be able to >> perform basic tasks . A naïve approach is to design templates and , >> before anything else, check they work with nothing else on top . Let's >> add the rest later. > > This is /precisely/ what Peter is worried about: designing UX on top of > a dumb interface instead of the other way around. You're letting your > personal experience cloud your thinking. >
you are right ... [...] > > It's high time this project showed some real progress if you want to > attract a user base. Hanging an albatross around your neck isn't going > to help at all. > ... thus I won't try to influence your decision about non-JS support anymore . [] > >> If we don't design with that goal in mind since the beginning then it >> will always be a loose end . IMO there are other major obstacles when >> it comes to analyze what might jeopardize the existence of the project >> . > > I think you should take a hint from Jira, which says: > > " Warning: either you have JavaScript disabled or your browser does not > support JavaScript. To work properly, this page requires JavaScript to > be enabled." > > My best guess at the reason for this is that it's /hard/ to write a > Javascript-less fallback for a good UI. The 80/20 rule would certainly > apply. > Nonetheless if we are going to see Atlassian as a reference , just know that I am not fond of their (recent?) decisions to turn functional software into beautiful but useless tools . FWIW I hope you'll understand why I second previous comments posted by Gary and Joachim , and also that this does not mean that I think you are wrong . Probably we are just looking at the same subject from a different perspective . [...] -- Regards, Olemis. Blog ES: http://simelo-es.blogspot.com/ Blog EN: http://simelo-en.blogspot.com/ Featured article:
