El 25 de junio de 2022 8:53:54 a. m. GMT-03:00, Andreas Mantke <ma...@gmx.de> 
escribió:
>Hi Sophie, all,
>
>Am 25.06.22 um 01:44 schrieb sophi:
>> Hi Andreas, all
>> Le 25/06/2022 à 00:05, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> FYI: I wrote a short blog post about my work. And for those who like
>>> visuals, I added two ones.
>>>
>>> https://amantke.de/2022/06/25/work-on-revival-of-libreoffice-online/
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your work on this, I really appreciate and welcome
>> the efforts :) Maybe what we should do is to have an online meeting
>> between you, Franklin, Daniel, Paolo and of course who in the
>> community is interested to follow-up.
>>
>> The new online version is a really good news for me (thanks a lot
>> Franklin and Andreas for that), and I guess for a large part of the
>> non European community (as well as for students, SMEs and so on).
>> There is a clear interest in the community to have this online version.
>+1
>>
>> This is for me rejoining part of the Foundation roots.
>>
>> But we also have to think about the ecosystem and the value they have
>> built upon this version and for us. I'm also concerned about this. We
>> should not ignore it.
>>
>> I'm really happy that TDF come back in this dynamic, however I think a
>> serious discussion have to take place between the ecosystem and TDF,
>> not to stop TDF in acting like it was in the past, but to find a fair
>> place to live for everybody.
>> I'm sure this place exists if all parties are ready to make an effort
>> to reach a common goal.
>
>I think such common ground could be reached, if not one side try to
>dominate the other one. I don't see the necessary respect for the work
>of every individual in the LibreOffice community and all talents. It
>looks like if the developers think they are the only important part in
>the community. And then there is the issue that the LibreOffice
>(commercial) ecosystem is not divers enough. This leads to a situation
>comparable with the situation in OOo community during the years before
>the start of LibreOffice.
>
>I want to state here that I have no issue with creating and selling
>(commercial) derivatives from OSS projects, but I think there should be
>the common ground of an upstream project, where all participants could
>add their commits. And the hosting/administration of this upstream
>project should be done by the LibreOffice community and TDF and not by
>any vendor.
>
>I think good citizens of a OSS community like to work together on a
>common ground owned and administrated by the community.
>
>And as far as I know the MPL and LGPL allows to make (commercial)
>derivatives from this source with different flowers and for different
>needs of customers (and if a customer agreed modifications on the source
>code were committed back to the upstream project).
>
>>
>> I ask, if I may, everybody taking part to the discussion to have a
>> deep thought to the international community we, at TDF, are committed
>> to represent.
>>
>+1
>
>I hope my statement above is a starting point to get back to the root
>spirit of TDF and the LibreOffice community.
>
>Regards,
>Andreas


Nothing no add, just want to express full support to previous 

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