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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> If you are looking for a book to begin intelligent debate at a school, I
> would recommend "Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say" as a starter. Dr
> Farrell is not an "angry divorced father", and has been elected three
> times to the Board of the National Organisation of Women in New York
> City, probably the only man to have done so.
>
> This is highly misleading. True, when he espoused a kind of liberal
> feminist politics in the 1970s (e.g. in his book "The Liberated Man"),
> Farrell was on the board of NOW. Not the national board, but the New York
> City chapter. But since then, he and his writings have moved progressively
> to the right, to an increasingly anti-feminist account of how men are now
> the real victims,

This illustrates the black-and-white-thinking ideologue mindset of which I 
have accused Michael in the past: if you oppose the anti-male, extremist 
brand of feminism, you must be both "anti-feminist" and on "the right". I 
have known Warren and his writings for years, and his basic liberal views 
have never changed, gradually or otherwise. He merely had an epiphany back 
in the '80's in which he realized how anti-liberal the anti-male brand of 
feminism actually is.

FC

> and he and his affiliates have been heavily criticised by
> NOW and other feminist advocates. And these days, Farrell is one of the
> *key* advocates in the US of fathers' rights, both in his writings and his
> institutional positions. (I've met the guy. I thought he was charming,
> intelligent, and deeply mistaken.)
>
> See a review of Farrell's "Women can't hear..." here:
> http://www.xyonline.net/womencanthear.shtml
>
> And see my review of his earlier "The myth of male power" here:
> http://www.xyonline.net/Myth.shtml
>
> And see other critiques of the "fathers' rights" politics Farrell and
> others espouse here: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/
>
> For people after accessible introductions to 'men's issues', I'd recommend
> the following;
>
> Cooper, Mick and Baker, Peter. (1996). The MANual: The Complete Man's Guide
> to Life. London: Thorsons.
>
> Doyle, James A. (1989). The Male Experience. (2nd edition) Iowa: W.M.C.
> Brown.
>
> Fanning, Patrick and Matthew McKay. (1993). Being a Man: A Guide to the New
> Masculinity. Oakland, CA: New Harbinger Publications.
>
> Johnson, Allan G. (1997). The Gender Knot: Unraveling our Patriarchal
> Legacy. Philadelphia: Temple University Press.
>
> Kaufman, Michael. (1993). Cracking the Armour: Power, Pain and the Lives of
> Men. Toronto, Ontario: Penguin.
>
> Levant, Ronald F., With Kopecky, Gina. (1996). Masculinity Reconstructed:
> Changing the Rules of Manhood at Work, in Relationships, and in Family
> Life. New York: Plume.
>
> And see here for further introductions:
> http://mensbiblio.xyonline.net/bestreading.html#Heading1
>
> Best wishes,
>
> michael flood.
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