Relevance to boys ed? I think we're a bit out on the edges of what we should be 
looking at guys. 
Chris

Ferrel Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--->

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Gerry wrote:

>
>> Dr
>> Farrell is not an "angry divorced father", and has been elected three
>> times to the Board of the National Organisation of Women in New York
>> City, probably the only man to have done so.
>
> He is also reported to have had a very tolerant attitude towards incest. 
> He tells lies about this: when asked why this rumour about him being 
> pro-incest keeps coming up, he fails to mention a Penthouse magazine 
> article in which he is quoted as saying (in reference to a book he was 
> writing about the issue):

Fails to mention it? He's been responding on the issue for years.

> "... millions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and
> genitally caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring,
> loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and
> themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn't. My book
> should at least begin the exploration."

Since Gerry "fails to mention" Warren's explanation of this passage, let 
me apprise the rest of you of it: he says that the interviewer 
mistranscribed his word 'generally' into 'genitally'.

As for myself, I wasn't there, so I don't know what Warren has actually 
said on this subject; nor have I ever seen the original Penthouse article. 
What I do know is how some people love to distort what others have said, 
so I would ask Gerry the following two questions:

> ...and...
>
> If pushed to the wall, would Farrell urge incest on families? "Incest is 
> like a magnifying glass," he summarizes. "In some circumstances it 
> magnifies the beauty of the relationship..."

[1] Is the above passage also from the Penthouse article; if not, what is 
its original source?
[2] Did you personally read these quotations in the original source(s)? If 
not, what was your immediate source?


> Even though he had ample opportunity at the time to correct what he now 
> calls a mis-quote he never did until relatively recently

Just *how* recently is this supposed to have happened? You sound terribly 
sure of all these historical facts; again, what is your source?

>(I guess 
> appearing to be pro-incest would have an impact on book sales),
>
> In more recent times I heard an Australian interview with him where he 
> had an opportunity to correct the interviewer when he was introduced as 
> a former member of the NOW national board, but he didn't. For such a 
> strident anti-feminist he seems more than happy to bask in the 
> creditability such an association apparently gives him.

There's that "anti-feminist" claim again. So here's a little more of the 
history: in the '70s when people like Karen DeCrow were running NOW, it 
was much more of an egalitarian organization (and much more liberal); for 
example, back then they supported a presumption of joint custody after 
divorce. Not until the early '80s did the Jacobins take it over, accusing 
the progressives of plotting to restore the monarchy.

FC




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