Hi, Lysander Do you know of a blindness friendly encoder? Write me off-list (of course) if yes.
Cheers Kylee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lysander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > Sidenote: if oyu were ro record directly to FLAC or Shortin or Monkey's > Audio or WMA lossless or what have you, you could then convert to MP3 just > like you did a wave file. Same results, better space consumption. Since FLAC > is an open-source encoding scheme, (I can't remember how Shorten works but > I'm pretty sure Monkey's Audio is a company and Microsoft is deffinetly not > going to just give WMA lossless to Humanware for free) I would like to think > that implamenting FLAC support would be a reasonable request to make. The > processing power would be a problem, of course, especially if the BN is > doing something else at the time, so maybe on-the-fly encoding would be out. > But still. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kylee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > > > > Of course, Rusty, there are lossless formats such as Flak and Shorten > > (wish > > I could find an accessible encoder) which perform better than MP3. > > However, > > the others are right. It's always better to record in an uncompressed > > format and then convert afterwards. There are professional field > > recorders > > which will record to MP3, but those are dedicated recording machines. The > > BN, on the other hand, has many different features which all demand > > processor power, so encoding on the fly in such an environment would be a > > different matter from a recording machine, whether it's a high-end solid > > state field recorder (such as I regularly use) or a domestic MP3 player > > such > > as the Iriver. > > > > Kylee > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:02 AM > > Subject: RE: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > > > > > >> Hi Joseph and Lysander, > >> > >> In refference to the idea that the purpose of the recorder is only for > >> notes, I would bet that Jonathan would tell you that the recorder is for > >> what ever you want it for. I've heard him say that it'd even be great if > > you > >> could edit audio files with the BN. So the "scope" is only as small or > > large > >> as your willing to allow it to be. > >> > >> In terms of licensing, there are freeware encoders and licensed encoders. > >> This isn't my area of expertise, but my Iriver was very inexpensive and > > if > >> they can put an encoder in there, it's possible for low or no cost in the > >> BN. > >> > >> I have heard, again, that when DAISY comes to the BN that encoding on the > >> fly will be closer. > >> > >> This, I think, is in large part about space. It'd be much better to take > > up > >> only 1 meg a minute instead of 5 megs a minute for high quality > > recordings. > >> Imagine the space saved when a student records class lectures with a BN > >> if > >> the BN could record to mp3. > >> Additionally, who wants to shuffle a bunch of .wav files to a pc, convert > >> and reshuffle. > >> > >> This is all academic because it isn't possible yet, but I'd like to hope > >> that we're headed in that direction. > >> > >> Rusty > >> > >> > >> ____________________ > >> Skype: rustyperez > >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo > >> Check out my blog at > >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:13 AM > >> To: 'Braillenote List' > >> Subject: RE: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > >> This is Joseph. There is a program out there called CDEx. It can convert > >> between mp3 and .wav files. So, for example, if you wisi to convert a > >> note > >> that has been recorded on the BN to an mp3 file, you can simply transfer > > the > >> file to a computer and convert it that way. Recording software that runs > > on > >> the computer these days allows you to convert between multiple file > > formats. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lysander > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:34 AM > >> To: Braillenote List > >> Subject: Re: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > >> The main issue is one of licensing. Since the BN is a commercial product, > >> they'd have to license rights to use the encoder. Why do that, when you > > can > >> record in WAV and compress it to MP3 on a computer for free? The BN is a > >> notetaker, not a recording studio. The recording feature is meant for > > taking > >> notes. I wish people would keep things in scope. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:28 AM > >> Subject: Mp3 recording on the BN --was Re: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > >> > >> > Hi folks, > >> > It has been suggested that recording to mp3 or encoding on the fly is > >> > not possible, or that conversion from .wav to .mp3 would be better. > >> > > >> > Assuming that you accept the limitations that come with mp3 encoding, > >> > encoding on the fly isn't a problem at all. I own a tiny Iriver mp3 > >> > player which records mp3 files on the fly. It's probably got one tenth > >> > or less the power of the BN and it runs on one AA battery. So encoding > >> > on the fly isn't a problem. > >> > I have heard that this capability may come when DAISY support is > >> > implemented. Get out your check books. :-) > >> > > >> > Rusty > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stacey > >> > Robinson > >> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:35 PM > >> > To: Braillenote List > >> > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > > >> > Au, > >> > That does make sense. Maybe it's much better to stick with wav. > >> > Stacey and Amigo > >> > > >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>From: "Lysander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >> >>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:01:46 -0900 > >> >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > > >> >>It isnt' really possible to record in mp3, as you would be > >> > compressing on > >> >>the fly as it were. What would be nice is a wav to mp3 converter, > >> > but on the > >> >>other hand it would keep needing to be updated because the codecs > >> > are > >> >>constantly being worked on, and then you'd get into licensing > >> > costs for it, > >> >>not to mention that then people will be clammering for AAC and OG > >> > support > >> >>which all have the same inherrant problems as MP3, etc. > >> >>----- Original Message ----- > >> >>From: "Stacey Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] > >> >>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:03 AM > >> >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > > >> > > >> >>> I'd love to be able to record in mp3. I also think it would be > >> > nice to > >> >>> have a program that could zip and unzip things. I'm not sure if > >> > that's > >> >>> possible, but as I don't use a pc, it would be nice. > >> >>> Stacey and Amigo > >> > > >> > > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>>From: "Carlos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] > >> >>>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:56:41 -0500 > >> >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > > >> >>>>I add my vote for a revised file management system. > >> > > >> >>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dan > >> >>> kysor > >> >>>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:15 PM > >> >>>>To: [email protected] > >> >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] vote now > >> > > >> >>>>hi fellow braillenote fans. I was on the phone with Dean Jackson > >> >>> the other > >> >>>>day and was extolling the virtues of adding a financial > >> >>> transaction > >> >>>>component to keysoft. > >> >>>>Now is the time we should submit our desires for such a program, > >> >>> just a > >> >>>>simple checkbook utility like charles crawford's talking > >> >>> checkbook program. > >> >>>>So, I am officially casting my vote for our illustrious marketing > >> >>> manager's > >> >>>>ears, OK MOSEN! > >> >>>>dan > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>>>___ > >> >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> >>>>___ > >> >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> >>> ___ > >> >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>___ > >> >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: > > 17/02/2006 > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 > > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
