Hi Peter, I'm afraid I can't really comment on Eloquence, as so far I've used the Apex almost exclusively without speech because of my working environment. I certainly love writing with it and can go really fast when I don't have to be quiet, and it's great that it's so much lighter. I'll be happy to reply to your off-list message later today.
All the best, Nicky ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter greco" <[email protected]> To: "Nicola Sanders" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Apex frozen with main menu on braille display > Hi Nicky > I would like to know where the faster processor is hidden? > Resets can be very frustrating! > The Apex is nice to write with and the display is fantastic! > The way it does operate is somewhat disappointing! > How have you found eloquence? > Best to you! > Peter > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Nicola Sanders" <[email protected] >>To: "peter greco" <[email protected]>,"Nicole B. Torcolini" > <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>,<spei...@inebrask > a.com>,<[email protected] >>Date sent: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:08:13 +0100 >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Apex frozen with main menu on braille > display > >>Hi Peter and list, > >>Sorry to hear about this problem. Overall I'm very pleased with > my new Apex, but I have to agree with you about the processor. I > did a few tests opening fairly large files on the mPower and the > Apex, and there was virtually no difference. I was thinking that > perhaps it was just my units, but you seem to be having the same > experience. As I said, I'm generally very pleased with the Apex > and it's certainly much more stable when I'm browsing on the > Internet. > >>I had a similar problem to yours the other day, when my Apex > locked up and the resets wouldn't work. I turned the unit off, > removed the battery and then replaced it. It immediately came > back to life and all was well. Glad the reset with the record > button worked for you. On the whole I have to reset my Apex far > less often than my mPower. > >>Best, > >>Nicky > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "peter greco" <[email protected] >>To: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:36 AM >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Apex frozen with main menu on braille > display > > >>>I was downloading an m p 3 on the Apex, coincidentally! I found >>> that the m-Power could successfully download it, but the Apex >>> "failed". >>> I ended up having to use the record and reset buttons. >>> I'm disappointed in how eloquence performs and there doesn't > seem >>> to be much evidence of a faster processor. >>> Peter > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <[email protected] >>>>To: "peter greco" <[email protected]>,"jd" >>> > <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>,<[email protected] >>> manware.com >>>>Date sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:32:56 -0800 >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Apex frozen with main menu on braille >>> display > >>>>Have you tried all configurations of resets? Is the reset button >>> stuck >>>>down? Service reset? What were you doing when it first froze? > >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "peter greco" <[email protected] >>>>To: "jd" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; >>>><[email protected] >>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:13 PM >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Apex frozen with main menu on braille >>> display > > >>>>>I pressed the reset button on my Apex. >>>>> After a few seconds main menu was on the display. That's all >>> that's now >>>>> happening! >>>>> Hitting the space bar, scroll wheel, thumb keys, nothing >>> happens. Turning >>>>> the unit off, main menu is still on the display. >>>>> Pushing the reset button, still main menu on display but nothing >>> else. >>>>> Any ideas!!?? >>>>> Peter. > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: jd <[email protected] >>>>>>To: Steve Speicher <[email protected]>, >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:08:50 -0500 >>>>>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] possible bug in planner: appointments >>>>> on same day > > >>>>>>Hi: > >>>>>>I use the KeyPlan calendar for 5 to 8 appointments >>>>>>every day and have not had the problem you identify. >>>>>>I'm still using KeySoft 7.5 on a BT 18 mPower. >>>>>>I hope that this problem gets resolved for you soon. > > >>>>>> JD Townsend >>>>>> Helping the light dependent to see. > > >>>>>>Daytona Beach, Florida, Earth > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: Steve Speicher <[email protected] >>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:34:30 -0600 >>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] possible bug in planner: >>>>>>appointments on same day > >>>>>>>Mpower bt 32, ks 8 build 20. > >>>>>>>When I put two appointments on the same day, for >>>>>>example one at 3:00 >>>>>>>and one at 4:00, the first appointment reads fine, >>>>>>but the second and >>>>>>>later appointments appear to place an unwanted line >>>>>>break in the >>>>>>>title. Thus, if the 3:00 appointment is with George >>>>>>Jones, then >>>>>>>George Jones is pronounced as I would expect. But >>>>>>if the 4:00 >>>>>>>appointment is with Katie Jones, the bn, whether I >>>>>>use kng or >>>>>>>eloquence, says the appointment title is "Kati every >>>>>>Jones". When I >>>>>>>use space with dot 3 to go back over the word >>>>>>"Katie", which appears >>>>>>>as one word on the display, KS tells me that there >>>>>>is a "line break" >>>>>>>between the i and the e in Katie. If the 4:30 >>>>>>appointment, for >>>>>>>example, is with Touchy Jones, then KS says "Too >>>>>>chee", and again >>>>>>>moving character by character indicates a line break >>>>>>between the >>>>>>>ou sign and the ch sign in "touchy". > >>>>>>>My working theory is that the planner forgets to >>>>>>start the second and >>>>>>>later appointments on a new line, so that even short >>>>>>words in the >>>>>>>title are or can be broken by a line break, at >>>>>>least as far as the >>>>>>>translator and speech are concerned; and this occurs >>>>>>even though the >>>>>>>word looks unbroken on the braille display. > >>>>>>>Has anyone had similar experiences or found a >>>>>>work-around? > >>>>>>>Steve > > > >>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the >>>>>>sender. >>>>>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please >>>>>>send a >>>>>>>copy to the list as well. > >>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message >>>>>>to >>>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your >>>>>>preferences, visit >>>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/brailleno >>>>>>te > > >>>>>>___ >>>>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>>>copy to the list as well. > >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[email protected] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > >>>>> ___ >>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>> copy to the list as well. > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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