I am surprised to hear that Eloquence is still such a problem. I, too,
use only Keynote Gold since Eloquence is choppy, slow, and bad at
pronouncing sentences (it still breaks them up) but I never thought it
would cause freezing on a unit with the upgraded internals that the
Apex has.

On 5/12/11, Peter Bosher <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Lucia and All,
>
> Re Apex freezing:  a friend was having this problem to an astonishing
> degree, where her Apex BT32 (running 9.1) would freeze consistently
> after a few minutes of writing in Keyword.   Switching from Eloquence
> to Keynote Gold improved this enormously, such that writing became
> possible again,  though the freezing continued much less often.
>
> I only ever use Keynote Gold, and freezing doesn't happen too often,
> though one definite cause is overheating.   If using the Apex in very
> warm weather or in direct sunshine it will freeze for sure, and the
> only cure is to take the battery out, let it cool down and re-start.
>
> HTH,
>
> Peter
>
>
> At 04:42 PM 4/9/2011, Lucia Gomez wrote:
>>Hi Terri and all,
>>
>>Thanks for your comments.
>>
>>First, I wish to reiterate what my colleague from New Zealand wrote. We,
>>at Humanware Canada as well as our branches in US, UK and Australia,
>>follow the discussion in the list and keep precious notes of your
>>feedback. This information was integrated in the design of the new Apex
>>and will be as well in future versions of our products. Your feedback is
>>also precious when defining the content of new KeySoft versions such as
>>9.1 which included various requests from the list.
>>
>>As part as our commitment to Braille literacy, we continue focusing our
>>efforts towards the development of new Braille products, the evolution
>>of the existing ones and the resolution of software issues. For example,
>>presently our first priority is to investigate and fix the Apex issue
>>whereas the TTS stops and the device freezes as some of you reported to
>>the list or to our tech support team.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Lucia Gomez
>>Product manager
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Terri Pannett [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: 6 avril 2011 12:44
>>To: Alex Bec; David Meador; Josh Gregory; Greg Stilson; Lucia Gomez
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] our concerns
>>
>>That's the most lame-brained excuse I ever heard!  Besidess, this man is
>>in
>>New Zealand, not Canada, where the HumanWare headquarters is located!
>>
>>The fact is HIMS and GW Micro take the time to respond to their lists.
>>No
>>apologies or recriminations were necessary on those lists.  I understand
>>why
>>a company wouldn't want to give away information until a new product
>>comes
>>out, but the excuse "I don't have time," is really no excuse at all.
>>This
>>man in New Zealand doesn't have the time to respond to us, but what
>>about
>>the other employees--the ones based in Quebec?  What's their excuse?
>>
>>Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alex Bec" <[email protected]>
>>To: "David Meador" <[email protected]>; "Josh Gregory"
>><[email protected]>; "Greg Stilson" <[email protected]>;
>>"Lucia
>>Gomez" <[email protected]>
>>Cc: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:46 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] our concerns
>>
>>
>>Hi David, Josh,
>>
>>I won't comment on the projects that keep the R&D team very busy as this
>>is not my role, and I fully understand the commercial reasons for not
>>advertising too much of what is being developed until it's almost ready
>>to be released.
>>
>>I will however just say here again, that I (and other staff members)
>>read and follow the discussions on the braillenote list on a very
>>regular basis. If I don't step in the discussions, it's mostly a
>>question of lack of time available to do so, and also because of
>>confidentiality reasons that would dictate too much of what I could or
>>couldn't say and restrain my comments. On top of that, typical internet
>>discussion syndrome implies that some people will misinterpret things
>>being said, escalate things, requiring follow up, corrections,
>>explanations, even apologies, etc... and it ends up being a full time
>>job, and a very depressing one for that matter.
>>
>>Some users are very skilled and knowledgeable to contribute to those
>>discussions and help others, and it's great to have that help for
>>everyday issues. However, when a juicy problem arises through the
>>braillenote list, it doesn't get unnoticed, and usually ends up being
>>investigated in the R&D.
>>The tech support channels are of course usually a better way to report
>>issues.
>>
>>As this had been suggested already in the past, we'll look at improving
>>that communication channel.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Alex
>>
>>
>>---------
>>Alex BEC
>>Software Design Engineer
>>HumanWare
>>
>>Christchurch, New Zealand
>>S: alexandrebec
>>IP phone: 344
>>www.humanware.com
>>........................................................................
>>........................................ The power is in your hands
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Meador [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Monday, 4 April 2011 6:02 a.m.
>>To: Josh Gregory; Greg Stilson; Lucia Gomez; Alex Bec
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] our concerns
>>
>>Dear Josh,
>>
>>You've written a respectful request.  For me, I'm wanting the
>>Note-taker to grow up and become a PC, especially for browsing
>>the internet.  Perhaps that's impossible with today's BrailleNote
>>firmware software interfaces.  But at the very least, Humanware
>>tech people owe us the courtesy of a periodic response to our
>>discussion points and questions.
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>
>>Beyond Vision
>>Nashville, TN  615-385-0784
>>www.davidmeador.com
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Josh Gregory <[email protected]
>> >To: [email protected],
>>[email protected],[email protected]
>> >Date sent: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 02:20:12 -0400
>> >Subject: [Braillenote] our concerns
>>
>> >?Hello,
>> >My name is Joshua Gregory.  I use a BrailleNote Mpower with a 32-
>> >cell braille display running KeySoft 8, build 21.  I am writing
>> >this letter on behalf of myself as well as the BrailleNote list.
>> >  I, as well as the list, am concerned that if certain features
>> >are not introduced to KeySoft, such as better word support, or an
>> >SDK, that the BrailleNote will no longer be as competitive in the
>> >blindness PDA market as it is today in just a matter of a few
>> >years or so.  For instance, the Braille Sense products from HIMS
>> >now have an SDK available for programmers interested in writing
>> >programs for the Braille Sense, with the upcoming 6.0 firmware
>> >release from HIMS.  We, as BrailleNote users, do not yet have
>> >this available to us and we would like to see this implemented.
>> >With this, we could write games for the BN, such as uno, and also
>> >write programs that we could all benefit from.
>> >  We are also concerned with the absence to response from hw
>> >staff to questions posed on the list.  While many people on the
>> >list are able to answer most of the questions posed there, we as
>> >a collective group strongly feel that more communication would be
>> >valuable to feel a company presence on the list.
>> >  I strongly hope that this letter will be taken into
>> >consideration to both better the braillenote line of products and
>> >to make us bn users feel a presence from the company on very
>> >critical issues.
>> >Thank you.
>> >Sincerely,
>> >Joshua Gregory,
>> >Eleventh Grader at the Maryland School for the Blind
>>
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