Seems to me Jeroen is responsible. He is the listowner, and he has been repeatedly sending multiple spam emails to around 100 people. These people have kindly asked him to stop the spamming, and he has refused. It is ironic that you talk about this being a "fresh" start when it seems Jeroen has dragged his problems from the original Brin-L list to this one.
--- On Tue 06/10, Jorpho < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Jorpho [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Why? <br>Oh, heck with it. Time to speak up.<br><br>This is what my inbox shows beyond 6/7/03:<br>Seven messages from David Hobby<br>Two messages from Richard Crawford<br>Six messages from Erik Reuter<br>One message from "listowner"<br>Two messages from Jeroen van Baardwijk<br>And one message from Heather Shimokawa.<br><br>None of these messages really had any good reason to appear on this list.<br>It is also not immediately obvious who is responsible for any of these<br>messages - not Mr. van Baardwijk, nor this Arnett person I have never heard<br>of otherwise - unless the From address provides any real indication.<br><br>If the other Brin-L list captivated my interest, I might be subscribed to<br>it. As it is, I still want to see what a fresh approach has to offer.<br><br>Cheers, J.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Heather Shimokawa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>To: "David Brin Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:04 PM<br>Subject: Re:STOP THE SPAM!<br><br><br>><br>> Erik just told me that we have a listowner here who is<br>> intolerant, fascist, and a spammer. Ironic,<br>> considering that Jeroen called the listowner of the<br>> real Brin-L list intolerant, when it is really Jeroen<br>> who is at fault here. He blames his problems on other<br>> people. Jeroen was responsible for spamming the list,<br>> and he takes out his frustrations by intolerantly and<br>> fascistly unsubscribing Erik.<br>><br>> This is the type of listowner this poor copy of the<br>> real Brin-L has. Don't you think you should<br>> unsubscribe from this fascist list and join the real<br>> Brin-L? The one that was smart enough to BAN Jeroen<br>> for death threats and repeated spamming. Do you really<br>> want to be on a list where the list owner makes death<br>> threats and spams people and blames others for his<br>> crimes? Someone who can't tolerate others to express<br>> their opinions?<br>><br>><br>> --- Listowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > At Stardate 20030610.2322, Erik Reuter wrote:<br>> ><br>> > >Yes, Jeroen did, by repeatedly spamming me. It is<br>> > not my fault, I repeat,<br>> > >you need to stop blaming me and take it up with<br>> > Jeroen. He is totally<br>> > >responsible, I am not.<br>> ><br>> > You are responsible. It was *your* decision to start<br>> > spamming this list.<br>> ><br>> > Anyway, as spamming will not be tolerated here,<br>> > immediately after this<br>> > message is sent you will be unsubscribed.<br>> ><br>> > Have a nice day.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Jeroen van Baardwijk, Listowner<br>> ><br>> ><br>> _________________________________________________________________________<br>> > Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website:<br>> > http://www.Brin-L.com<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > [Sponsored by:]<br>> ><br>><br>____________________________________________________________________________<br>_<br>> > The newest lyrics on the Net!<br>> ><br>> > http://lyrics.astraweb.com<br>> ><br>> > Click NOW!<br>> ><br>><br>><br>> __________________________________<br>> Do you Yahoo!?<br>> Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).<br>> http://calendar.yahoo.com<br>><br>><br>> [Sponsored by:]<br>><br>____________________________________________________________________________<br>_<br>> The newest lyrics on the Net!<br>><br>> http://lyrics.astraweb.com<br>><br>> Click NOW!<br>><br>><br>><br><br><br>[Sponsored by:]<br>_____________________________________________________________________________<br>The newest lyrics on the Net!<br><br> http://lyrics.astraweb.com<br><br>Click NOW!<br><br> _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com [Sponsored by:] _____________________________________________________________________________ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!