On 31 Jan 2003 at 2:19, William T Goodall wrote: > on 30/1/03 11:27 pm, Andrew Crystall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > On 30 Jan 2003 at 22:24, William T Goodall wrote: > >>> And let me restate - all the "home" deals for dial-up access in > >>> the UK kick you off every 2 hours, and they kick you off the *ISP > >>> entirely* if in any 24 hour rolling period you're connected for > >>> more than 12 hours. The ONLY exception is AOL. > >> > >> Demon doesn't either. See > >> http://www.demon.net/products/access/standard.shtml > > > > "***Demon uses 0845 numbers on the Standard Dial Up account. > > 0845 numbers are described by Oftel as "local call rate". BT charges > > these at local call rates " > > This would be new since I went onto broadband a few months ago. BT > wholesale must be enforcing the same limits on all the ISPs who use > its surftime packages as it applies to its own branded ones. [1]
Actually no. The laws of economics are - most ISP's have a contention ratio of between 12 and 15 to 1 on their free-dial services, believe it or not... > The question is, do you want to rely on a loss-making subsidised > service from a company that lost $100,000,000,000 (A hundred billion > dollars) or do you want something that will still be there next week ? > :) [2] Freeserve have ALLWAYS run at a loss... > [1] And you can still get surftime tariffs via Demon. > [2] I thought the 'give it away free and make money somehow' internet > bubble burst a long time ago. Mind you AOL-Time Warner has a *lot* > less than nothing to lose :) mm... AOL can afford to lose on the dial-up game, same as Freeserve. Me, I'm a broadband guy now. The extra £~12 a month and £60 setup* is more than justified to me in terms of increased productivity. (*I have both a 4-port ethernet broadand router which is currently back at parents house being used and the PCI ADSL card I'm currently using, so hardware costs are moot.) Andy Dawn Falcon _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l