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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Lawyer Arrested for Wearing a 'Peace' T-Shirt


> --- "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Or is the crux of the issue that the mall is private
> > property, so the
> > management and mall cops can do whatever they damn
> > well please?  "Excuse
> > me sir, that shirt you're wearing is disturbing
> > people.  To prove that
> > you're behaving like a good guest of the mall, I'm
> > afraid we'll require
> > you to remove the shirt, put your underpants on your
> > head, and sing the
> > Star-Spangled Banner with us in four-part harmony.
> > You won't do that?
> > Then you're trespassing."
> >
> > Marvin Long
>
> If they were harassing shoppers - and I
> would guess that they probably were - then I don't
> even mind the mall telling them to leave.  If they
> weren't, then that was a wrong decision on the part of
> the mall, but they were within their legal rights.

I agree with that anyone harassing shoppers should be asked to leave.  I
agree that asking anyone to leave because of a political statement they
make (such as "Stand by our president") can legally be asked to leave, but
that it would be a wrong decision.

What I don't understand is the juxtaposition of the actions by the mall
security guard and the complaint. If they were harassing shoppers, then why
did the mall guard state "take off your shirts or leave."  I could see "we
can't have people harassing shoppers, leave."  I could see "either stop
harassing people, leave."  But "take off your shirts?"

My guess is that they were not harassing people, but that their shirts did
stimulate conversation that disturbed a store employee.  I saw a report
that indicated that it was a Macy's employee that made the complaint, not a
shopper.

Dan M.




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