* maru dubshinki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> The studies I've read seem to indicate that global growth is
> overestimated by about 1% because of this.  I don't think that you'd
> lower the productivity growth, because it is accurate *assuming*
> no freak events occur like WWIII, or a war which took out the US
> as a sovereign entity- just increase the margin in which you have
> confidence.

That's absurd. Doubly so. First, global growth is almost certainly NOT
overestimated by 1%. The fact that comparing the growth rates of various
countries over the last 200 or so years, INCLUDING THOSE DEVASTATED BY
WAR, has almost all of the free-market economies coming in at about 1.5
- 2% long term real GDP per capita growth is a good clue that we are not
off by 1%.

The economic history of Germany obviously will have uncertainties during
the World War and hyperinflation. But since we know how GDP was growing
before and after the World Wars, missing a chunk of data in between is
not a serious problem.

Now, if you were to argue that there will be the occasional "black swan"
event that will devastate an economy, and that this should lower our
productivity growth estimate, then that would be reasonable, although it
would naturally be difficult to come up with an exact number since black
swan events are, by definition, rare and difficult to predict.

But it is absurd to say that this possibility increases the probability
of having ABOVE trend GDP growth. It obviously does not. It increases
the probability of having GDP rapidly reduced by, say, an order of
magnitude in a short time, which would annualize out to a much lower
GDP growth rate. If you think there is say, a 1 in 10 chance of this
happening in the next 75 years, and you want to put it in your model,
you would either use a lower growth rate in your forecasts, or if you
are doing Monte Carlo as Dan suggested, you would have some scenarios
where the whole economy goes to hell, and this would average out to a
bigger deficit for SS.

Alternatively, you might model it by making your high-cost (low
productivity growth) case have a lower productivity growth than
1.3%. But one thing you would certainly NOT do is INCREASE your
productivity growth estimate on the upside.

Incidentally, if you are not willing to discuss in good faith by signing
your real name, I'm not inclined to converse with you anymore.

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Erik Reuter   http://www.erikreuter.net/
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