On 5 Jan 2007, at 03:21, Charlie Bell wrote:

>
> On 05/01/2007, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
>
>> On 5 Jan 2007 at 1:47, William T Goodall wrote:
>>
>>> Con men thrive like maggots in the filth of religion. Not to mention
>>> the abusers, addicts, bullies and other low-lifes it attracts.
>>
>> As they do in new age cults, UFO cults, "anti-hate" groupd, or even
>> your own faith.
>
> Which have similarities in the way they operate. Apart from the
> latter, which is a non-sequiter.
>
>> You're certainly a bully and abuser.
>
> He "certainly" isn't. Strident, forceful and rude, vicious in parody
> and a baiter who goes far too far in getting his rise out of people.

You calling me a master baiter Charlie?

> You fall for it repeatedly and rise to it every time.
>>
>> The issue is not ideology, it is people. Trying to blame the front
>> people use for their excesses rather than the people themselves is
>> the typical tactic of the scaremonger and the demagogue.
>
> It's both. When organisations protect those among their number (as
> with the recent and ongoing Catholic Church abuse revelations),

Or the emerging Rabbi abuse scandal in New York.

> the
> organisation and mind-set behind it is just as fair game as the
> individual perpetrators. Individuals are wholly responsible for their
> own actions, but any organisation or movement that protects the
> guilty from justice and responsibility is just as guilty.
>

That's religion!

-- 
William T Goodall
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I ate the profiteroles, but I did not eat the tiramisu


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