i care more about the extinction of plant and animal species than humanity. i really don't think taking my own life will help matters... jon
But in either case the result for you is the same. I'm simply trying to get across in this discussion how offensive I find it when anyone suggests that the death of every human on Earth or a substantial fraction of them is A Good Thing, especially when the people making the suggestion are clearly talking about Someone Else doing the dying, and one way to get across how offensive it is to ask the people who are convinced that it would be such A Good Thing why they don't lead by example instead of (implicitly or explicitly) expecting Someone Else who does not necessarily agree that it would be A Good Thing if most or all humans died off to do the dying . . . Ah, I see your point. Mass executions are indeed hideous. I was thinking about population control from the breeding side. And I have indeed attempted to lead by example. I was sterilized at age 20, and have no children. Mind you, I do think that either we rein in population size, or a lot of people die on other hideous ways. Is it a whole lot better to avoid mass executions so that we can have mass starvation, or mass plagues, or mass wars? ... what *is* the sustainable carrying capacity of the Earth? ... is uncontrolled breeding by human beings really feasible as a long-term policy? The fact that you don't like the implications does not, in itself, make their argument bad. Regards, Kevin B. O'Brien i find it extremely offensive that human considerations have a higher priority than plant and animal species, just because we are sapient. why is it acceptable to endanger the spotted owl, and exterminate other species, for human priorities? i am not advocating genocide, or even forced sterilizations. i would support reducing the population through education, birth control and other benign methods. i am just saying that if humanity is the cause of its own extinction it serves us right, myself included. it is "A Good Thing" for the planet because it will restore equilibrium... jon ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l