Jaimie > I haven't read the rest of your email below the point relating to what I > said, as I can't be bothered. However,
Glad to see that the spirit of open mindedness is still alive and well in the UKU and it's coordinators. Yup I know the rules and they illustrate exactly why this is a just fine time (in fact the only time to be having this discussion) I don't really want to the focus of this discussion on the seedings choice. My point is more that if the tour format is more flexible to allow for a potentially larger set of teams to move between the A&B tours then the seedings matter less. However regarding the timing of the complaint I refer you to rule 4: 4. New teams will be seeded by the discretion of the DoC. Geo-teams may be considered for seeding directly into the A tour, whereas non geo teams will have to start from the B tour. Teams may only be seeded directly into the A tour should there be vacancies due to mergers or folding teams over the close season." So given that LLL2 and RedDog are no more there where two spots available in the A tour for new geo teams. Yet those spots have been strictly filled based on nationals finishes last year rather than the application of rule 4. Are Brighton Ultimate a new geo team? How about No-Lo? How about Discuits? How about Sheffield Steal or Tenacious Devon last year? Given that the application of rule 4 cannot be known until the seedings are published when else should this discussion be held? JP > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:28 PM > To: Jon Palmer > Cc: britdisc@near.me.uk > Subject: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to the Tour Format > > Jon, > > I haven't read the rest of your email below the point relating to what I > said, as I can't be bothered. However, > > You said: If the TD had gotten this information out earlier we could have > discussed it earlier. > > The way seeding is determined is in the Tour Rules, which have been > published on the website since this time last year. (Didn't this give you > enough time to read them? You're clearly not a slow writer, so if you're a > slow reader I'd suggest writing shorter emails so you can check you are > not > writing rubbish.) The relevant sections are below. > <http://www.ukultimate.com/open/tour_rules.aspx> > > "8. SEEDINGS > > 1. All seedings at any tournament are at the discretion of the DoC, UKUA > CAC > and UKUA. > > 2. For Tour 1 seedings will be based on the finishing positions of the > previous Nationals, and for lower ranked teams, the previous overall Tour > results. > > 4. New teams will be seeded by the discretion of the DoC. Geo-teams may be > considered for seeding directly into the A tour, whereas non geo teams > will > have to start from the B tour. Teams may only be seeded directly into the > A > tour should there be vacancies due to mergers or folding teams over the > close season." > > I repeat, don't start critisising things now!!!! > > Jaimie > (It begins with an 'L') > > Jon Palmer writes: > > > Jamie Cross wrote: > > > >> Seriously though, the way seedings etc are worked out have been public > for > > > >> ages, and this style of last minute critisism is ill-timed and > reasonably > >> pointless. If you have issues with the rules, raise them well in > advance > >> of Tour 1, so there is time for discussion, change and implementation. > >> Seems sensible to me but I must admit a lack of the foresight displayed > by > > > >> some of the previous correspondents. > > > > You don't consider the day that the seedings are announced and the > format > > first released to be an appropriate time to have this discussion? If the > TD > > had gotten this information out earlier we could have discussed it > earlier. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > BritDisc@near.me.uk > http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list BritDisc@near.me.uk http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
