I agree that this is wrong for the tour events. Ltd Release met Wizards in the 1v8. If we had lost to Wizards, we would have had no chance of going back in the A tour, as we clearly proved that we should have done. With a team of the Wizards
standard, our game could have easily gone the other way and would have made
a complete mockery of the tour for us.

The BritOpen is a great event, enjoyable in that you get a chance to play foreign teams.
The tour is for GB seedings.

The two together can clearly mess things up!!!

Keep them separate

Sean

Simon Statham wrote:

It's not just because you weren't good enough then?
You weren't 'stitched up'. If you had been good enough to get into the top 8 then you would have beaten at least one of these teams, I didn't see either of them cruise through all the other teams there. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that either of them even got to the final - so you weren't good enough, get over it. Go back, practice harder, get better and then you'll be fine...

Dan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Can we not have a really really talented bunch of Ultimate Wizards from
Switzerland in our group next time as well please?
I'm talking about the B tour.

Having worked really hard to prepare for this tour, the Lucky Huckers
got a bit stitched up (again) by finding themselves in a group with
Seamus Murphy (8th seeds) and Wizards (23rd seed). A veritable group of
death. Wizards were clearly a bit useful and it soon transpired that
ourselves and Murphy would have to battle it out for 2nd spot and the
chance for a crossover into the top 8.
Murphy themselves mentioned after our game that it seemed a bit unfair
that one team would end up missing out because a team clearly not ranked
correctly attended as a guest team. They were just slotted in at 23rd
when they were an experienced and capable outfit and so the seedings
were laughable. It meant one team would always get shafted. Not
particularly through a team improving lots since the last tout but just
from obvious bad planning.

I imagine this is a difficult problem to overcome if a team only enters
one tour a year etc but did Wizards attend because this tour was coupled
with Brit Open? I'm new to all this so I don't understand how it works
but why invite international teams to a tour event that (I thought) was
designed to rank GB (and Ireland) teams before nationals. Correct me if
I'm wrong. I don't really know. Why not then invite international teams
to a separate event to play the best of British (and Irish!) after? Why
invite them in the middle?

Just seems stupid to me. Wizards were really cool to play against and
it's great to get international teams involved but is this the right
place to do it? You stitch up any team that gets them in their group.
Our weekend was over by Saturday evening really. Ok, so we're only B
tour, who cares etc etc but we still went with aims of working our way
towards A tour. Yeah we enjoyed the party and our games on Sunday, they
were great, but when you set yourselves a goal and it gets taken away
from you in this way it kind of takes the motivation out of everyone. So
we just got absolutely bulldozered at the party and wondered who picked
techno/gabba as party music. ;)

Apart from that it was cool. Special mention to Scnell Ja (sp?) who
stuck it to us hard Sunday morning. Fair play. See you all at Cardiff.
Berry78.

Lucky Huckers.

(My views only but the rest of the team can't read so they will never
know if I said something wrong anyway.)
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of McLoughlin, Matthew J
Sent: 31 July 2006 14:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: [BD] RE: Tour 2

Dear Tour 2 organisers

Apologies if I am being dumb but would it be possible for you to explain
why
no facilities for people camping on the Friday night were provided?
After
walking around the site about 11pm to find a toilet block with others we
had
to resort to walking to a local pub which was not be ideal for single
females to be doing late night on there own - which they were forced to
do.
I did check with others at the site in case I had missed them however
they
didn't know where they were either!

Also there was the small issue of dog foul on our first pitch on the
Saturday. It was the second game on the pitch so obviously the first
game
somehow managed to avoid it however I would of hoped each pitch would of
been checked and cleared by the organising committee - especially as it
is
specifically mentioned in the UKU pdf on "How to Run a UKU Tour v5".

I've never seen this problem before at a tour and was disappointed to
see it
at this one.

I appreciate the work that goes into running tours and commend every
single
person involved in running them and dedicating their time to allow these
events to go ahead however I feel these two are quite basic issues which
should and could be easily avoided.

Matt

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