The difference being in basketball you have 5 personal fouls before you are
ejected from the game whereas we dont have a similar process in Ultimate.

Personally I hate the lame calls that pepper some games due to incidental
contact and then the holier than thou discussions that take place
afterwards...But then I grew up playing basketball...and that has
referees...


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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:50:06 +0200
> From: Steve G <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [BD] Physicality in ultimate
> To: Steven Hunter <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Hi BD,
>
> I think quite a bit of the flexibility in contact comes from the North
> American side of things.  If you watch any NCAA or NBA basketball
> where non-contact is also a requirement, there are moments in a game
> where they do intentionally foul a player to let them have two shots
> from the free throw line rather than allow them to run down the clock,
> or get a 3 point shot away.  Tactical fouls in a non-contact sport are
> accepted.
>
> With this precedent set, it doesn't take long before players from one
> game translate that mentality to Ultimate.  It's not considered the
> same as lying about something like a disc being up or down or a foot
> in or out or diving to draw a red card.  It's using the rules and
> accepting the punishments to your advantage.  I'm not saying it's
> great, but it's also not necessarily cheating if you aren't trying
> avoid the punishment.
>
> I think it's a culture thing.  If you play in the US or Canada, expect
> the odd foul on stall 1 or 2 when it has less damaging an effect for
> the D but has the advantage of stopping flow.  Some teams just play
> that way and that's a different cultural interpretation of how to play
> the game.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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