Good point! Forgot about the max personal fouls thing. Also good point about that rule saying people wouldn't knowingly break the rules.
I was just trying to rationalise the different styles of play. Personally I sit somewhere in between the argument. I get more frustrated by a foul call on a good D which is simply two people competing for the same space than I do from a physically aggressive mark that makes a bit of contact. I suppose I draw the line when, as happened in Prague, a guy on Surly stuck his leg out and tripped me when I would have been free to score. ------ Steve Giguere ...Sent via mobile +44 7810886250 On 19 May 2011, at 09:06, Rob McGowan <[email protected]> wrote: > The difference being in basketball you have 5 personal fouls before you are > ejected from the game whereas we dont have a similar process in Ultimate. > > Personally I hate the lame calls that pepper some games due to incidental > contact and then the holier than thou discussions that take place > afterwards...But then I grew up playing basketball...and that has > referees... > > >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:50:06 +0200 >> From: Steve G <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [BD] Physicality in ultimate >> To: Steven Hunter <[email protected]> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi BD, >> >> I think quite a bit of the flexibility in contact comes from the North >> American side of things. If you watch any NCAA or NBA basketball >> where non-contact is also a requirement, there are moments in a game >> where they do intentionally foul a player to let them have two shots >> from the free throw line rather than allow them to run down the clock, >> or get a 3 point shot away. Tactical fouls in a non-contact sport are >> accepted. >> >> With this precedent set, it doesn't take long before players from one >> game translate that mentality to Ultimate. It's not considered the >> same as lying about something like a disc being up or down or a foot >> in or out or diving to draw a red card. It's using the rules and >> accepting the punishments to your advantage. I'm not saying it's >> great, but it's also not necessarily cheating if you aren't trying >> avoid the punishment. >> >> I think it's a culture thing. If you play in the US or Canada, expect >> the odd foul on stall 1 or 2 when it has less damaging an effect for >> the D but has the advantage of stopping flow. Some teams just play >> that way and that's a different cultural interpretation of how to play >> the game. >> >> Steve >> >> >> > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
