Jacek Artymiak (devGuide.net) wrote:

Mikel King wrote:

I am concerned about bloating the certs. What one person feels is basic is advanced to another. I think beyond basic security such as initial out of the box hardening or locking down you inetd.conf for instance which would be common to all BSDs, everything else should be left to the elective advanced certs that are say OS specific. These first two certs should really be the basic minimal qualifications to administer a BSD box across the board. Once you start throwing in all of the various package/port methods, security theorems, et cetera it becomes a platform for enforcing/validating ones agenda rather than a proper cert. Again I'm just concerned.


One way to avoid bloat is to start at an intermediate level where you
don't have to explain to people how to use the system manual or vi.  I
would much rather want to develop a certification program for people who
know what Unix is rather than for people who have never worked on the
command-line.  Let's not be afraid to tell people who want to get BSD
certification to do some work on their own before they begin they
preparation for the BSD certs.

Jacek,

   Hope you don't mind I reposted to the list on this one...

Not exactly what I meant by bloat. What I was refering was filling the base certs with things that belong in a more specialised cert, like say security for instance. It is a specific subject that has value unto itself and can be extremely broad in scope. Now am I saying that we should have some basic common sense security requirements in the base cert, absolutely. But some of the snorty, ipfw, ipf advanced stuff should be held to it's own standard. Especially since that sort of thing changes rapidly, which will require earlier recertification than a general admin duty type cert.

Additionally from an employer stand point having a BSD User cert wouldn't necessarily be bad. However it is not necessary to have such a cert from the get go.

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