* Andrei Buzoianu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-30 22:42]: 

>  Agree. Material-reviewing team is most needed too.
>  Seems to me this is going to be a good test on how much people are
>  willing to contribute.

i think that as long as the project remains useful to individuals and
the community at large, there'll be more than enough support.  the big
issue seems to be openness, and personally, i'm pretty cynical of
psychometric tests - as has been pointed out its difficult to measure
experience which is pretty much what we're trying to do).  for me,
although i'm pleased when an SA can do something, i'm a lot happier once
they've documented it.  perhaps there's some way of getting the first
batch of students to help produce teaching materials, or having them
create something more like a diary of what they've done and why.
coursework is what i'm thinking of..

it seems to me that learning how systems work is about iterating around
problems, seeing them from multiple angles, and when your experience is
documented and repeated, it very quickly becomes permanent and reusable
in a host of other scenarios.  and when that's happened enough, even
when you've not got a clue about what's happened or what's wrong, you
can quickly make a judgement and have a point to start fixing it from.

lastly, i'm not convinced that the current forms of certification are
that valuable in the trenches, when compared to constant exposure to
incidents. provided that bsdcerts can show that it's approach produces
great admins, any decent IT department will see that. there are already
a lot of other established options for the conservative and more 
business goal orientated organisations and i think it would be a waste 
to do a "BSD RHCE" type of thing. we're potentially building a machine 
here, that sucks in mortals in one end and spits out guru's at the 
other. what do the guru's of tomorrow need to understand to save us from
the clutches of brokenness?

stay frosty,


ian
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