Hi Harald,
> 1) I like to create small self contained initramfs systems. Systems > included in a single kernel image. So all you need to run the system is > that single kernel image and a boot loader to start. In those initramfs > systems i like to have only a minimum of statically linked binaries > with a maximum of flexibility. At best there is only one binary > containing all the utilities and the special application binaries. Oh, I do not deny there are good points in favour of having one single binary; your use case is one of them. I personally build my systems from bits and pieces, busybox being a tool among others, and agree that the more pieces, the more work for me. You have to weigh the costs: my approach undeniably means more work for the administrator, but is also more flexible. The day you need a utility that is not included in Busybox, you will have to pack it by hand too, so my point is that Busybox including stuff is *convenient* more than *required*. > 2) Comparing a utility collection box like Busybox with a tool like > systemd really smells bad. They are two completely different things. The comparison was obviously over-the-top and provocative, and I'm glad it elicited a reaction from you - but I wanted to poke at Denys, who shares my dislike of systemd for the same reasons ;) However, I think the underlying question about Busybox's policy needs to be addressed. If Busybox starts including things that are already small and embeddable to begin with (and I think it has already started going down this path with runit), then it becomes a one-stop-shop, a kind of Linux distribution, and like every distribution, sooner or later it will have to include the whole world. I would much rather have it stick to providing replacements for "standard" utilities that really need rewriting, along with a collection of links to other small, high-quality utilities - do one job and do it well, as the Unix philosophy says; be a part of the community instead of trying to be the whole community, which is exactly the same kind of hubris systemd (as well as most distributions, really) is suffering from. -- Laurent _______________________________________________ busybox mailing list busybox@busybox.net http://lists.busybox.net/mailman/listinfo/busybox