Mr. Watson, 
Regarding the use of a scanner in your home, you are somewhat correct. There 
were/are laws ( very difficult to enforce ) covering the 800 Mhz. band enacted 
when a political scandal involved the use of a scanner to listen in to what 
someone else thought was a 'private' telephone call ( back when 800 Mhz. was 
unencoded and frequently scanned ). I still have a scanner that Uniden made 
with reference to 'Law Enforcement' listening, meaning that only law 
enforcement and a few others were supposed to listen in on the 800 Mhz. band. 
Scanners built since around 1990 exclude the 800 Mhz. range which was used for 
telephones, yet technically other receivers may be easily modified to do this- 
just not resold en-masse. Since most telephones are now using 'digital modes' 
and are on other frequency bands- you would probably only hear babies talking 
on low VHF ( near 50 Mhz. ), but there could be exceptions. 
As to the use of a radio in your vehicle, even scanners are theoretically 
legally a problem in many states. The laws often cover any radio which might be 
able to listen in on law enforcement frequencies, or detect radar used for 
traffic speed enforcement. While it may be possible for you to 'listen-in' on 
certain frequencies, having your radio tuned to any public safety frequency 
without the same 'APCO' style legal permission form that most agencies use 
might get you in a big bunch of trouble. Of course, that assumes that there was 
reason for the officer to believe you were 'listening in'. Should you be 
stopped for a burnt signal lamp, etc.- it might be easy to overhear. Reaching 
down to adjust the volume might not be wise, as they always wonder what you 
might be reaching for. 
On the subject of mobile listening, in many states you may not legally cover 
both ears unless you are deemed 'hearing handicapped'. While you see this all 
the time, I can tell you first hand that a certain officer in Minnesota once 
gave me a ticket for listening to my amateur radio with a single-ear headset. 
He was unaware that amateur radio operators are also allowed to cover one ear, 
thus my citation was not filed ( I just carried a copy in to his station, and 
he ripped up the original copy ). Had it been a two-ear headset, the citation 
would have been processed- despite my license and assignment delivering 
public-safety modems that day. 
You might also want to talk to amateur radio operators in Sugar Land Texas 
about operating while mobile. There are new laws regarding distracted driving 
which may soon also apply in Houston. 

73 de KB0MNM 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tom Watson via BVARC" <bvarc@bvarc.org> 
To: "BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB" <bvarc@bvarc.org> 
Cc: "Tom Watson" <wz8q....@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:52:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Police/Fire call listening on UHF/VHF 

Someone may correct me on this, but except for a period during WW I, I don't 
think there has ever been a law prohibiting the use of a receiver at any 
frequency. Even if there were, it would be difficult to enfource. 

Tom Watson, WZ8Q 

On Aug 29, 2017 7:13 AM, "Gayle Dotts via BVARC" < bvarc@bvarc.org > wrote: 



Out of curiosity is it allowed to listen in on our radios? I looked up scanner 
frequencies of 460.XXX range with a PL123.0 and scanned up and down but heard 
nothing. Maybe it's blocked somehow. Just wanting to listen in since we are in 
all this hurricane and flooded event situation. Any advise? 

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