Hi Sarah, >> Hi Sue, >> >> Thanks for looking at this. My answers/comments inline... >> >> >> > I haven't read everyone else's comments, so apologies for any repetition. >> > >> > General >> > - Looks nice! >> > - There are OK buttons on the first two panels and then Next/Back buttons on >> > subsequent panels. Why not just have a Next button on the first two panels for >> > consistency? Also, just a nit, but the arrow on the OK button seems to point >> > back instead of forward. >> > >> >> The first 2 screens won't allow the user to go back, so next doesn't >> make sense. These two screens are also implemented by separate processes >> so when you hit ok, the value chosen is set.
Got it. I still think the arrow should point the other way then. :) And the first panel needs a title (I'm sure someone pointed that one out already). >> > - The first two panels (language and kb layout) were painted higher up on the >> > screen than subsequent panels. The welcome panel and those after were >> > drawn at a >> > lower point and, for my laptop, extended off the screen. I tried moving >> > the >> > window up so I could see the entire thing, but when I clicked next, the next >> > panel moved back to the original position. I had to manually move each panel or >> > else couldn't access the buttons. Similarly, if I change the position of the >> > window and then resize (which I had to do for the timezone panel), the window >> > moves back to where it originally started. >> > >> The first 2 screens are not part of the installer and are supposed to >> look different as a result. As for the welcome panel and subsequent >> panels being drawn so low you couldn't see the buttons, I will let >> Niall, Matt or Jedy answer that. My experience has been that a lot of users think that from the moment they see text until the final reboot, it's all part of the same installer. At least that's how it seems from the bug reports. >> > - Is there an install log? How will the user know where it is? >> > >> >> Yes, it will be the same log as we use now. >> >> > - Does the system reboot automatically? Or will the user be prompted? >> > >> > >> The user will be prompted. Right after the tools install, which you >> don't see in this Demo, the window will have a button that asks for >> reboot now. >> >> > Quit >> > - Maybe give a warning asking if user really wants to quit? >> > >> > >> we do that in the current installer now. But, I tend to think that >> asking the user 'do you really, really want to quit' is annoying. We are >> not allowing the user to quit once the install/upgrade is started. So, >> quitting before then isn't really harmful to their system. I guess what >> I am saying is that I don't think it is necessary to ask them if they >> really want to quit since quitting is non-destructive. I understand the point about "really, really". And with the current version, there aren't many panels, so it isn't a big deal to start over. But I was once doing an install with lots of customizations, disk layout changes, etc. and I accidentally clicked quit/exit and I was "really, really" happy not to have to start all over again. ;) Sue >> > License >> > - You can accept the license without looking at it. Has legal bought into this? >> > >> I believe they have. Frank, isn't this what you indicated in a previous >> email? >> >> > - If I try to install without accepting the license, the popup says "Do >> > you >> > consent to license agreement". It would be better to have that text match the >> > text next to the license box (i.e., either both say "consent" or both say >> > "accept the terms") >> > >> > >> Fair enough. >> > Language >> > - Are we no longer doing Geos?? >> > >> No, we are doing languages, then locales. >> > (next three comments may be demo limitations, but will mention anyway) >> > - If I select to install in French, it would be nice if French was automatically >> > selected by default on the language panel and possibly be made the default >> > language. >> > >> >> I believe this is the plan. Whatever language the user selects to >> install in will be marked as the default on the language support page. >> > - If I deselect all, everything is >> >> >> > deselected. Shouldn't English (or something) >> > stay selected so there can be a default language? >> > >> No, I wouldn't think so. Deselect All means All in my mind. But, the >> ability for the user to move forward with no language support selected >> seems broken to me as well. I would think we would have to install >> support for at least one language. Seems like a bug that we don't either >> tell the user we are defaulting to English, or when they move back >> having defaulted back to English. Maybe this behavior is just not quite >> complete for this page? >> > - Similarly, if I select Japanese and make that the default, then click deselect >> > all, the default language remains as Japanese. Seems like it should revert to >> > English. >> > >> This is a known bug in this screen. >> > Users >> > - "Re-enter to check for typing errors" is ok, but I like "Re-enter to verify" >> > better. >> > >> > >> That seems like a fair suggestion. >> > Install >> > - I didn't enter user info, so I have a yellow warning triangle to the right of >> > "User account information not entered" But higher up, next to the disk >> > information, there is a yellow triangle that says "Warning: The partition will >> > be erased". >> > It was slightly confusing because it made me think for a moment that the yellow >> > triangle at the bottom was being explained by the yellow triangle at the top >> > (i.e., having an asterisk, and then the asterisk definition somewhere else). >> > >> >> Ah... I see what you mean. We have yellow triangles with no text next to >> the left had text regarding user accounts, but do have warming text next >> to the triangle about the disk partition data. Niall, Frank, what do you >> think? >> > Upgrade >> > - The existing installer allows you to add languages during an upgrade. Don't >> > see that ability in the demo. >> > >> >> We won't be allowing the addition of languages during and upgrade for >> Dwarf. The user would have to manually add these later. >> > - Maybe change text from: >> > Review the settings below before installing >> > to >> > Review the setting below before upgrading >> > >> The upgrade panel should definitely say upgrade. >> > Left Panel >> > - Should one be able to navigate by clicking on the items on the left (Welcome, >> > Disk, Timezone, etc)? Or is that there mostly as a todo/reference list? >> > >> > >> No, for Dwarf the user should not be able to navigate by clicking the >> items on the the left. This is on a future feature planned list. >> >> thanks, >> sarah
