Jon Aimone wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could not happen soon enough for me!
> 
> I understand resolving the immediate issue for this community, but it 
> occurs to me that other groups/projects/etc. could benefit from a more 
> general solution to this problem... I presume the ON flag day/heads up 
> page is manually maintained.
> 

Yes, they are manually maintained, and I'm not in a position to throw 
any more effort at this problem.

> Would a separate discussion list, specifically for flags days not also 
> resolve this? Granted it's not editable after the fact, but it would be 
> searchable and something to which anyone may subscribe.
> 

One reason I did not select this option is a desire not to fragment the 
discussions related to the project.  Additionally, this will be 
organized, as well as searchable, which mail archives are not.

Dave


> Dave Miner wrote:
>> Caimaniacs,
>>
>> We've been requested by several key users to provide a straightforward 
>> communication channel for interface changes to the various installers, 
>> though especially AI, so that those users, including test teams, can 
>> adjust their procedures as needed and keep the train running on time. 
>> Experience during the 2009.06 development cycle indicates that the 
>> prior suggestion to monitor this list for heads-up notices became a 
>> needle-in-a-haystack exercise, hence the request for us to apply some 
>> filtering and interpretation (and simple archiving) to assist them.
>>
>> After examining the problem and available channels, I'm proposing to 
>> establish a flag day/heads up page on wikis.sun.com.  This would be a 
>> single page, organized by build (somewhat in the manner of the ON flag 
>> day page[1]), wherein we would collect information on user-visible 
>> changes to the installers as they are integrated to the source tree. 
>> Why wikis.sun.com?
>>
>> 1.  It's available to both the internal and external communities, both 
>> of whom have made requests for this sort of information.
>> 2.  It offers users the ability to "watch" pages, obtaining "push" 
>> notification of updates to this page, which is not offered by the 
>> opensolaris.org web site implementation.  The future implementation 
>> based on XWiki offers a similar watch capability, but this channel 
>> needs to be in place now to support the ongoing ramp of test activity 
>> based on OpenSolaris builds.
>>
>> I anticipate the following effects on the project developers:
>>
>> 1.  The gatekeeper (Clay, at present) would add organization of this 
>> page to his duties.  This essentially becomes an exercise of 
>> demarcating the builds in the page.
>> 2.  Individual developers continue to be responsible for creating 
>> heads-up/flag day documentation for their integrations, and must now 
>> post it to the new wiki page.
>> 3.  Individual developers continue to send flag day/heads-up mail to 
>> this list, though these can become largely pointers to the wiki page.
>>
>> Questions and comments on this proposal are requested by COB 
>> Wednesday, July 29.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> [1]http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/116-120/
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