Hi Dave,
I agree about the heads-up/flag-day needing to be aggregated. I've
got in progress a relatively general automated solution which should work
for any Pipermail archived e-mail list (i.e. caiman-discuss). However, the
problem of publishing the results is non-trivial as I don't have ready
access to a webserver on which to run the script and publish the result
which is external.
Similarly, we have a build page (again only internal due to the
publishing issues) where pushes are aggregated by HG build tag. I can roll
the heads-up/flag-day messages into this output too which would provide a
nice single source of information.
I would like to see this solution automated, however, I'm not sure
where I can post the generated HTML automatically outside right now. This
could possibly be done with minimal manual intervention on OpenSolaris.ORG
or wikis.Sun.COM but would use still use e-mail as the authoritative
information source with a link to the e-mail thread for further
investigation by interested folks - this also frees us from potential
future wiki migrations.
Does this sound like a potential interim solution? As soon as I
get some CSS work done on the output I can provide an example of the
current script's output.
Thank you,
Clay
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Dave Miner wrote:
> Caimaniacs,
>
> We've been requested by several key users to provide a straightforward
> communication channel for interface changes to the various installers, though
> especially AI, so that those users, including test teams, can adjust their
> procedures as needed and keep the train running on time. Experience during
> the 2009.06 development cycle indicates that the prior suggestion to monitor
> this list for heads-up notices became a needle-in-a-haystack exercise, hence
> the request for us to apply some filtering and interpretation (and simple
> archiving) to assist them.
>
> After examining the problem and available channels, I'm proposing to
> establish a flag day/heads up page on wikis.sun.com. This would be a single
> page, organized by build (somewhat in the manner of the ON flag day page[1]),
> wherein we would collect information on user-visible changes to the
> installers as they are integrated to the source tree. Why wikis.sun.com?
>
> 1. It's available to both the internal and external communities, both of
> whom have made requests for this sort of information.
> 2. It offers users the ability to "watch" pages, obtaining "push"
> notification of updates to this page, which is not offered by the
> opensolaris.org web site implementation. The future implementation based on
> XWiki offers a similar watch capability, but this channel needs to be in
> place now to support the ongoing ramp of test activity based on OpenSolaris
> builds.
>
> I anticipate the following effects on the project developers:
>
> 1. The gatekeeper (Clay, at present) would add organization of this page to
> his duties. This essentially becomes an exercise of demarcating the builds
> in the page.
> 2. Individual developers continue to be responsible for creating
> heads-up/flag day documentation for their integrations, and must now post it
> to the new wiki page.
> 3. Individual developers continue to send flag day/heads-up mail to this
> list, though these can become largely pointers to the wiki page.
>
> Questions and comments on this proposal are requested by COB Wednesday, July
> 29.
>
> Dave
>
> [1]http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/116-120/
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