Hi folks, Forgive me for being rather forward with my email here, I'll try to put my case over as level headed and as thoughtfully as possible, and please feel free to give back any constructive critisism. Also, forgive any spelling and grammar - I'm typing this on the way home on my blackberry, it's the only time I get to write an email this long.
Through being on the IRC channel, and on here - many a time, someone new has come along and they are looking for a ready-to-roll application that they can plonk onto their server and have running. At the moment, there are a few small apps out there currently being written by small teams (and even just one coder) such as cheesecake, bakesale to name a couple, and there are plenty of dead projects in the trove. I want cake to succeed, it's a great framework - but I have to admit, it took me three tries of coming back to it over the course of a few month to get the hang of it. I could see it's power, but it took me a while to get the hand of it. And I'm not the only one. What I believe CakePHP needs is a killer app, a CMS that can rival the others out there, and that gives people the chance to actually see cakephp in action. Think of it as a pre-packed Cake you get in the supermarket. RoR has one, Radient CMS - why can't we? I think by NOT having one, that scares a lot of people off. So my proposal is this - along with the primary cake team who are developing the framework - we create a secondry team to work on an application that will be this killer app. With the creation of this team, we can set about making something that while it might not suit everyone's needs, it's something that most people can start off with and build upon (which is something I think is imporant to note now, think Drupal!). It would have standard "modules" such as a user system (registration, authorisation, access levels, etc), a post & comments system, pages (from the db), a menu system, file upload - and many more. I'm thinking around a level akin to a default install of Wordpress. As well as creating a base level of these modules for people to work from, I think it would a) drive more people to download and learn CakePHP as they can see it in action and also so they can expand upon this base app and b) drive cakephp itself by defining requirments of the base application, and also provide more components, plugins and documentaion that can be included into CakePHP itself. And of course it would help in bug fixing by providing code back to the main project. Now, please don't me wrong - I think everyone should download the framework and experiment with their own apps, and this "killer app" is not going to suit all cases, but I think if some of the more senior members of the community who already have apps out there were to come together on this and pool their talents, something great could happen. If not, then I suppose it's the communitys loss. Personally, I'm happy to work on my own app, and although progress is admitidly slow, I certainly wouldn't loose any sleep over it. One last thing I would like to say is: convergance, not divergance - I think that needs to be the motto here So folks, now is your time to pipe up with your opinion. If anyone is interested, then discuss it here and we can start moving forward on it. If not, then that's fine too. Tane --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
