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On Jan 4, 1:53 am, "Louie Miranda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, on the documentation side. Maybe a *total newbie guide* on HABTM will
> also be helpful for users having a hard time with it.
>
> - Saving on 2 tables.
> - belongsTo, but saving only to 1 table or field.
>
> Something like that.
>
> Louie
>
> On Jan 4, 2008 2:50 PM, Louie Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Cake is a full-stack framework and ZF is a glue.
>
> > Cake and CI, introduced me to MVC. And i am loving it. Although, HABTM is
> > still hard for me.
>
> > I been using PEAR for 2 straight years, until i finally decided to try
> > Cake. I got tired of a glue Framework and wanted something more different.
> > Cake will totally help me to learn on Object Oriented programming and be
> > more familiar with it on PHP and ASP.NET :)
>
> > I am a total newbie, enjoying Cake. Been using Cake for 2 slow months now.
> > Just this week, i was able to kinda understand small things on HABTM.
>
> > Louie
>
> > On Jan 4, 2008 11:08 AM, superuser2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > What calls itself the Zend Framework is, I agree, a library, a
> > > collection of classes. One of those classes - Zend_Controller -  is a
> > > library that acts like an MVC framework. Everything else is/should be
> > > totally pluggable with the rest of the world. And so I think that
> > > cakePHP is a superior MVC framework, but could use a hand from some
> > > Zend components.
>
> > > --Jacob
>
> > > On Dec 19 2007, 4:38 am, Mika <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > I doubt you're going to get a fair (or rather unbiased) answer posting
> > > > in thecakephpforum. Maybe post in a more general php forum?
>
> > > > Mika
>
> > > > On Dec 17, 6:59 am, Action <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I've always used Cake as my primary framework, but the Zend
> > > Framework
> > > > > seems to be shaping up nicely. Most of its published criticisms have
>
> > > > > been dealt with since 1.0 and it has some very impressive features
> > > > > (webservices, etc.).
>
> > > > > Given the fact that it's "Zend" and that there's an entire team of
> > > > > professional developers behind it, do you think this framework will
> > > > > become the industry standard for PHP? Also, do you think other
> > > > > frameworks such asCakePHPwill die off as a result?
>
> > > > > The reason I ask is because I question Cake's future. I've already
> > > > > spent a lot of time on this framework, but I don't want to waste
> > > time
> > > > > if something like Zend is going to become the standard. Cake's
> > > > > releases are far more infrequent than Zend's and Cake's
> > > documentation
> > > > > is STILL horrible.
>
> > > > > What do you think?
>
> > --
> > Louie Miranda ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >http://www.axishift.com
>
> > Security Is A Series Of Well-Defined Steps
> > chmod -R 0 / ; and smile :)
>
> --
> Louie Miranda ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.axishift.com
>
> Security Is A Series Of Well-Defined Steps
> chmod -R 0 / ; and smile :)
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