Except for using what's provided (being a light library), you can't
get very far in jQuery without learning JavaScript unless you plan to
only reuse other peoples' code.

On Nov 2, 7:38 pm, "Gabriel Gilini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I mean that there is a hell lot of people learning jQuery, not JavaScript
> these days. Every allegedly javascript developer should, at least, read the
> ECMA-262.
> Gabriel Gilini
>
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> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM, 703designs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure what you mean by that. jQuery is written in JavaScript
> > (not like MochiKit, which tries to make JavaScript look like Python).
>
> > On Oct 31, 2:43 pm, "Gabriel Gilini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The right answers is: learn real javascript
> > > Yes, the learning curve with jQuery is way lower, but when you really
> > know
> > > javascript, take a look in proto ;)
>
> > > Gabriel Gilini
>
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> > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Samuel DeVore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Here's my take for what little it's worth (note I use scripa/proto)
> > > > if you want to use the ajax helper at this point you are tied to
> > > > scripta/proto.  now given that the stated plans in unofficial channels
> > > > is that the helper is either being migrated to jQuery or being driving
> > > > to a javascript _framwork_ agnostic place, it really doesn't matter.
>
> > > > If on the otherhand you see yourself not feeling like the helper as it
> > > > exists now will meet your needs and you will be wanting insight and
> > > > help from people on this list on integrating javascript _framework_
> > > > into your project, then I would say that the responses to your
> > > > question indicate, to me, that jQuery is a more of the current
> > > > 'hotness' and you are likely to get more help from people jazzed up on
> > > > jQuery.
>
> > > > To me it is a question of who is going to help you if you need it and
> > > > what do you think your projected needs are.
>
> > > > See totally unhelpful answer ;)
>
> > > > Sam D
>
> > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Gabriel Gilini <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Sorry, mate, but prototype also supports all CSS3 selectors.
>
> > > > > ps: I never use cakephp's ajax helpers, and I love writing javascript
>
> > > > > Cheers
>
> > > > > Gabriel Gilini
>
> > > > >www.usosim.com.br
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> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Josey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > >> I perfer jQuery as well.
> > > > >> Many Bakers like prototype due to the javascript and ajax helpers
> > that
> > > > >> come with CakePHP.
> > > > >> These make baking with JS quite a bit easier, not to mention faster
> > > > >> however many Javascript experts would cringe to think that
> > developers
> > > > >> are using php helpers for the behavioral portion of their sites
> > > > >> because the scripts are no longer unobtrusive.
>
> > > > >> jQuery is very easy to learn and uses many of the same selectors
> > that
> > > > >> CSS 2 and 3 use making it incredibly easy to develop around.
> > > > >> However, if you require a JS helper there is a jQuery helper for
> > > > >> CakePHP called pQuery.
> > > > >>http://www.ngcoders.com/php/pquery-php-and-jquery
>
> > > > >> If not then spend some time at the jQuery API and read through the
> > > > >> tutorials.
> > > > >>http://docs.jquery.com/Main_Page
>
> > > > >> I love jQuery.
>
> > > > >> On Oct 30, 5:49 pm, Matthieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> > Hello,
>
> > > > >> > I'm gonna create a web app using CakePHP but I'm confused about
> > > > >> > chosing between Jquery or Scriptalious? Which one should I choose?
> > > > >> > Does it really matter? What's the differences between them?
>
> > > > >> > tks
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