On this: > everybody should release their neighbors or partners in time to dance with me > on time, and should dance in a way that shows awareness and at least > minimal consideration of the people around them.
I so TOTALLY agree. As in all flourishes. I'm so tired of waiting for the dipping guy to finish his "thing" so I can dance with my neighbor or with my neighbors or with HIM. I want to be connected during the dance, not truncated. or "Hot dogged". I have danced with those who twirl me beyond others and - I'm on time, and stable. I'm grateful for them. For those that are inventive and vibrant and yet - there for me and for my neighbors. I'm grateful for the young that dance with the less young but with recognition of our vitality and ingenuity, and - being on time, and staying connected. Laur\\ snipping alot of previous post... ~ >________________________________ > From: Aahz Maruch <a...@pobox.com> >To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Callers] Flourishes > >On Fri, Jan 04, 2013, Alan Winston wrote: >> On 1/4/2013 7:49 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>>On Thu, Jan 03, 2013, Kalia Kliban wrote: >>>>On 1/3/2013 8:21 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>>>>On Thu, Jan 03, 2013, Alan Winston wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't think you need this for the argument; there were flourishes >>>>>>when I started contra dancing in 1985 (but we called the people who >>>>>>did them "hot-doggers" and complained about them). > > >> Over the years the flourish baseline has adjusted, we don't hear a >> lot about hot-dogging, and so on. But *I* internally still feel >> that no other dancer should do anything to me without at least my >> implied consent that keeps me from following the callers directions, >> no other dancer should rob me of agency (and the stupid "make an arch >> instead of R&L thru" thing is asymmetrical, keeps me from following >> the directions, and doesn't give me a way to decline), everybody >> should release their neighbors or partners in time to dance with me >> on time, and should dance in a way that shows awareness and at least >> minimal consideration of the people around them. >> > >Overall I agree; I try to maintain awareness of other dancers around me >and avoid flourishes that will affect anyone who either doesn't want or >isn't prepared to deal with them. > >However, I'm indeed guilty of the arch on R&L thru. ;-) I like it >because it permits the more balanced twirling of a California twirl >(I think it's easier for the man to twirl with a California twirl than >the standard courtesy turn because of the forward movement). > >
