For the hold off time, we moved all of ours to the maximum (864000) after having a couple of ours go offline due to the GPS. We tend to not alert ourselves on customer outages, only infrastructure, so we missed it the first time until customers called us. Now, we SNMP monitor GPS as well and have it page us on a failure - but the long hold off helps.

Sakid Ahmed via Cambium-users <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>
January 30, 2018 at 4:10 PM

Unfortunately, we don’t have an internal switch to flip the connection. We have a way to communicate with the GPS chip and are looking at ways to address this in SW.

As for the question on the hold off timer, that just allows the AP to operate (without shutting of Tx) without a GPS signal during the holdoff timer.

Sakid

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*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:07 PM
*To:* Sakid Ahmed <sakid.ah...@cambiumnetworks.com>; 'Cambium Networks User Group' <cambium-users@wispa.org> *Subject:* RE: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

Hi Sakid

Will just selecting internal switch us to using the onboard GPS chip? Or do we need to unplug the external puck (which would mean a tower climb)?

Thanks

Adam

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sakid Ahmed via Cambium-users
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*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

While this topic has moved to CnPilot SSID issue and CnMaestro, I did want to chime in on the original GPS thread –

Intermittent GPS signal lost – The external puck we ship with the Aps is a relatively high gain antenna and thus tends to be impacted more from interference. We have seen cases of this from LTE (second harmonic landing on top of GPS frequencies). The onboard GPS chip has a lower gain antenna and in the case where LTE interference was the issue we have seen a substantial difference when the puck was not used. Unfortunately, it is a case by case situation and depends on the environment. We are actively looking to find a better solution in terms of an external puck while keeping costs low.

Lockup during upgrade – We have seen reports of lockup issues during an upgrade. This is software related and the units are recoverable by our support team via CLI access. The team will just need remote access.

Anything beyond the two issues qualify for a RMA and if you have an unit exhibiting a different mode of failure, we would be keen to investigate the unit here.

Thanks

Sakid

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
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*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

cnMaestro is capable of managing ePMP, PMP450, and cnPilot R and E series routers. But they have to be managed in cnMaestro before any config template can be pushed out to them. If you cnPilot routers are managed by cnMaestro, then it is possible that someone accidentally pushed a config to those routers. Best practice is to have a template built for each customer. Then if this happens again, cnMaestro will report that those routers are 'Out of Sync'. All you will need to do at that point is resync the config and then about 5 minutes or less, it will be fixed.

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SmarterBroadband <mailto:li...@sbb.net>
January 30, 2018 at 4:06 PM

Hi Sakid

Will just selecting internal switch us to using the onboard GPS chip? Or do we need to unplug the external puck (which would mean a tower climb)?

Thanks

Adam

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*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:27 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

While this topic has moved to CnPilot SSID issue and CnMaestro, I did want to chime in on the original GPS thread –

Intermittent GPS signal lost – The external puck we ship with the Aps is a relatively high gain antenna and thus tends to be impacted more from interference. We have seen cases of this from LTE (second harmonic landing on top of GPS frequencies). The onboard GPS chip has a lower gain antenna and in the case where LTE interference was the issue we have seen a substantial difference when the puck was not used. Unfortunately, it is a case by case situation and depends on the environment. We are actively looking to find a better solution in terms of an external puck while keeping costs low.

Lockup during upgrade – We have seen reports of lockup issues during an upgrade. This is software related and the units are recoverable by our support team via CLI access. The team will just need remote access.

Anything beyond the two issues qualify for a RMA and if you have an unit exhibiting a different mode of failure, we would be keen to investigate the unit here.

Thanks

Sakid

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:12 AM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

cnMaestro is capable of managing ePMP, PMP450, and cnPilot R and E series routers. But they have to be managed in cnMaestro before any config template can be pushed out to them. If you cnPilot routers are managed by cnMaestro, then it is possible that someone accidentally pushed a config to those routers. Best practice is to have a template built for each customer. Then if this happens again, cnMaestro will report that those routers are 'Out of Sync'. All you will need to do at that point is resync the config and then about 5 minutes or less, it will be fixed.

Best Regards,

Craig Oliver

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George Skorup <mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>
January 30, 2018 at 9:39 AM
Sounds like someone pushed a template from cnMaestro.

On 1/30/2018 10:37 AM, Ray Savich via Cambium-users wrote:

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January 30, 2018 at 9:37 AM

Thank you for the heads up. First I have heard of this. I am sharing with the product team.

Ray

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Not related, but want to spread the word…if anyone experienced this odd event.

Around 10:30am Central Time yesterday, we started receiving calls “Internet is not working”.

I was one of the ‘victims’ myself at my home.

Common denominator – all the routers are cnPilot R200 and R200P’s.

I logged into my home router directly at my home.

SSID in the router *_changed_* to “cnPilot”.

Once I changed the SSID back to the original SSID and re-entered in the ‘password’ – it worked.

We’ve had 6 customers call in.

Asked them if their router name (SSID) had their original name or did it change to “cnPilot”.

*Each confirmed – it said “cnPilot”.*

We’ve been able to remotely log in and correct things….but this is STRANGE !

Will get a ticket going with Cambium to see what’s going on.

Thanks for the GPS information, will make notes on it.

Mike Scott

STT Rural Net

Iowa

*From:* cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:18 AM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

I had that issue a few weeks ago where the 3.5.1 GPS upgrade actually locked up the GPS board and wouldn't even initialize the board to even turn on, even though the software was reporting that GPS was active. Opened up a ticket with Cambium and they had to run it up to one of their engineers to fix the problem. Ended up having to map a Public IP address to the unit and open up ports 80 for www, 22 Inbound for SSH, and needed to make sure that 22 Outbound was open for the device to be able to communicate with their SCP server. The engineer SSH'd in to the device and loaded the GPS files to the unit from their SCP server and it fixed the issue. Just remember to turn off all of those ports to the unit after they're finished.

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Mike Scott <mailto:mi...@sttiowa.com>
January 30, 2018 at 9:35 AM

Not related, but want to spread the word…if anyone experienced this odd event.

Around 10:30am Central Time yesterday, we started receiving calls “Internet is not working”.

I was one of the ‘victims’ myself at my home.

Common denominator – all the routers are cnPilot R200 and R200P’s.

I logged into my home router directly at my home.

SSID in the router *_changed_* to “cnPilot”.

Once I changed the SSID back to the original SSID and re-entered in the ‘password’ – it worked.

We’ve had 6 customers call in.

Asked them if their router name (SSID) had their original name or did it change to “cnPilot”.

*Each confirmed – it said “cnPilot”.*

We’ve been able to remotely log in and correct things….but this is STRANGE !

Will get a ticket going with Cambium to see what’s going on.

Thanks for the GPS information, will make notes on it.

Mike Scott

STT Rural Net

Iowa

*From:* cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:18 AM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

I had that issue a few weeks ago where the 3.5.1 GPS upgrade actually locked up the GPS board and wouldn't even initialize the board to even turn on, even though the software was reporting that GPS was active. Opened up a ticket with Cambium and they had to run it up to one of their engineers to fix the problem. Ended up having to map a Public IP address to the unit and open up ports 80 for www, 22 Inbound for SSH, and needed to make sure that 22 Outbound was open for the device to be able to communicate with their SCP server. The engineer SSH'd in to the device and loaded the GPS files to the unit from their SCP server and it fixed the issue. Just remember to turn off all of those ports to the unit after they're finished.

Best Regards,

Craig Oliver

President

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469-951-6900 Cell

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