My experience with Free-Run on Canopy is that it will drift rather quickly. Certainly within a few minutes. Probably not much different on ePMP.

On 1/30/2018 5:46 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Hi Sakid

How do we use the onboard GPS chip? We have a number of APs loosing sync for periods of time and would like to try them on the onboard GPS chip to see if it helps.

Also, how long does will the hold off timer (generate sync) keep the AP in sync with other APs?  1 minute, 10 minutes, 1 hour, 10 hours, 1 day, 1 week?      What did you find in your lab testing?    i.e. How good is the generate sync clock???

Thanks

Adam

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sakid Ahmed via Cambium-users
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:10 PM
*To:* SmarterBroadband <li...@sbb.net>; 'Cambium Networks User Group' <cambium-users@wispa.org> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

Unfortunately, we don’t have an internal switch to flip the connection. We have a way to communicate with the GPS chip and are looking at ways to address this in SW.

As for the question on the hold off timer, that just allows the AP to operate (without shutting of Tx) without a GPS signal during the holdoff timer.

Sakid

*From:*SmarterBroadband [mailto:li...@sbb.net]
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:07 PM
*To:* Sakid Ahmed <sakid.ah...@cambiumnetworks.com <mailto:sakid.ah...@cambiumnetworks.com>>; 'Cambium Networks User Group' <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* RE: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

Hi Sakid

Will just selecting internal switch us to using the onboard GPS chip?   Or do we need to unplug the external puck (which would mean a tower climb)?

Thanks

Adam

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sakid Ahmed via Cambium-users
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:27 PM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

While this topic has moved to CnPilot SSID issue and CnMaestro, I did want to chime in on the original GPS thread –

Intermittent GPS signal lost – The external puck we ship with the Aps is a relatively high gain antenna and thus tends to be impacted more from interference. We have seen cases of this from LTE (second harmonic landing on top of GPS frequencies). The onboard GPS chip has a lower gain antenna and in the case where LTE interference was the issue we have seen a substantial difference when the puck was not used. Unfortunately, it is a case by case situation and depends on the environment. We are actively looking to find a better solution in terms of an external puck while keeping costs low.

Lockup during upgrade – We have seen reports of lockup issues during an upgrade. This is software related and the units are recoverable by our support team via CLI access. The team will just need remote access.

Anything beyond the two issues qualify for a RMA and if you have an unit exhibiting a different mode of failure, we would be keen to investigate the unit here.

Thanks

Sakid

*From:*cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:12 AM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

cnMaestro is capable of managing ePMP, PMP450, and cnPilot R and E series routers. But they have to be managed in cnMaestro before any config template can be pushed out to them. If you cnPilot routers are managed by cnMaestro, then it is possible that someone accidentally pushed a config to those routers. Best practice is to have a template built for each customer. Then if this happens again, cnMaestro will report that those routers are 'Out of Sync'. All you will need to do at that point is resync the config and then about 5 minutes or less, it will be fixed.

Best Regards,

Craig Oliver

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*Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

Pushed a template?

Not sure what that means.

At the time, we were fixing 3-ePMP AP’s and 3-R200 routers who failed to upgrade a month ago with the KRACK firmware upgrade.

The 3-R200’s were all ePMP AP connections.

The 6 R200’s that changed to cnPilot SSID were all _connected to PMP450 AP’s,_ which we didn’t make any changes to yesterday.

That’s the mystery – we were working with ePMP gear via cnMaestro, but nothing on the PMP450 gear was touched.

The timing tells me there’s a correlation – with the timing yesterday while working with ePMP via cnMaestro – but how did or can it

Affect PMP450 subscriber’s routers?

Mike Scott

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*Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after firmware upgrade

Sounds like someone pushed a template from cnMaestro.

On 1/30/2018 10:37 AM, Ray Savich via Cambium-users wrote:

    Thank you for the heads up. First I have heard of this. I am
    sharing with the product team.

    Ray

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    *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after
    firmware upgrade

    Not related, but want to spread the word…if anyone experienced
    this odd event.

    Around 10:30am Central Time yesterday, we started receiving calls
    “Internet is not working”.

    I was one of the ‘victims’ myself at my home.

    Common denominator – all the routers are cnPilot R200 and R200P’s.

    I logged into my home router directly at my home.

    SSID in the router *_changed_* to “cnPilot”.

    Once I changed the SSID back to the original SSID and re-entered
    in the ‘password’ – it worked.

    We’ve had 6 customers call in.

    Asked them if their router name (SSID) had their original name or
    did it change to “cnPilot”.

    *Each confirmed – it said “cnPilot”.*

    We’ve been able to remotely log in and correct things….but this is
    STRANGE !

    Will get a ticket going with Cambium to see what’s going on.

    Thanks for the GPS information, will make notes on it.

    Mike Scott

    STT Rural Net

    Iowa

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    [mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Craig Oliver
    *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:18 AM
    *To:* Cambium Networks User Group <cambium-users@wispa.org
    <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>>
    *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after
    firmware upgrade

    I had that issue a few weeks ago where the 3.5.1 GPS upgrade
    actually locked up the GPS board and wouldn't even initialize the
    board to even turn on, even though the software was reporting that
    GPS was active. Opened up a ticket with Cambium and they had to
    run it up to one of their engineers to fix the problem. Ended up
    having to map a Public IP address to the unit and open up ports 80
    for www, 22 Inbound for SSH, and needed to make sure that 22
    Outbound was open for the device to be able to communicate with
    their SCP server. The engineer SSH'd in to the device and loaded
    the GPS files to the unit from their SCP server and it fixed the
    issue. Just remember to turn off all of those ports to the unit
    after they're finished.

    Best Regards,

    Craig Oliver

    President

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    <mailto:cambium-users-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf of RickG
    <rgunder...@gmail.com <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:11:47 AM
    *To:* Cambium Networks User Group
    *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] ePMP 2000 GPS not working after
    firmware upgrade

    Yes. I contacted them and that's exactly what they are going to
    do. Thanks!

    On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Kerry Penland
    <kpenl...@bigtube.net <mailto:kpenl...@bigtube.net>> wrote:

        We had one ePMP 2000 AP fail like this on the GPS upgrade. We
        called cambium support, they were able to login with their
        engineering login

        and restore GPS operation for us.

        On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 20:12:07 -0500, RickG
        <rgunder...@gmail.com <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Correct. This is NOT a puck problem. The satellites were
            coming is strong BEFORE the firmware upgrade. I tried
            downgrading today but that did not help either. See the
            attached pics. Looks like RMA time.

            On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman
            <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
            <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

                No satellites doesn't sound like poor signal to me.

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Jan 26, 2018 3:28 PM, "Kristian Hoffmann"
                <kh...@fire2wire.com <mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>> wrote:

                    We fought with losing GPS sync on ePMP APs at a
                    couple of sites.  We had been told to point the
                    pucks south to get the best GPS signal.  There
                    were several wild goose chases, as it seemed
                    upgrading/downgrading firmware fixed it, but only
                    sometimes.  In the end, the solution at each of
                    these sites was to point the GPS puck straight
                    up.  Our best guess was that there was something
                    overloading the GPS receiver in the direction we
                    had them pointed.  So pointing them up, while not
                    giving them the best signal, minimized terrestrial
                    interference. At least that's our theory.

                    -Kristian

                    On 01/26/2018 07:39 AM, RickG wrote:

                        Well, I did check the forums and found I'm not
                        the only one. I'm going to try downgrading.
                        Was hoping to find someone here who has gone
                        through it so I dont waste time if it needs to
                        be RMA'd :)

                        On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Ray Savich
                        via Cambium-users <cambium-users@wispa.org
                        <mailto:cambium-users@wispa.org>> wrote:

                            Have you contacted our support folks or
                            the Cambium Community?

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                            not working after firmware upgrade

                            It worked before, upgraded from 3.5.1, no
                            more :(


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