I will admit that I spoke perhaps too harshly. I agree that Safari is screwing up here, but if it is as trivial to write software (maliciously or otherwise) that will delete any subset of the keychain as you say, then my keychain isn't safe at all. I'm trying to understand how I can protect it beyond writing bug reports (which I did, right after you suggested it). Because the data I create with your software is vulnerable to changes or deletions made by other software (and is also changing the behavior of your software), I want to know that I'm pursuing all avenues in the interest of making sure it never happens again.
I don't think that's unreasonable. -Aric On 10-Mar-08, at 4:56 PM, Stuart Morgan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Aric Guite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I agree with mostly everything you've said, except with the the part >> that implies that if another application (be it Safari or otherwise) >> deletes my Camino passwords, I'm going to have to just live with it. > > In addition to Florian's point, which is a good one, I don't see where > I implied that. I explained how to file a bug against the software > that is actually doing the deletion that people are unhappy about, > which isn't at all the same thing as telling you to "just live with > it". > > If you downloaded Foo, a bookmark management program that had a reset > button that, whenever you pressed it, unexpectedly deleted all of > Camino's bookmarks (because it used them as a source), would you > expect us to change the file Camino stores bookmarks in so that Foo > wouldn't find it any more, or would you complain to the developer of > Foo, and stop using that button in Foo in the meantime? > > I'm confused at what seems to be a perception that it is unreasonable > to say that the right place for Safari behavior to be changed is in > Safari, rather than Camino. If I checked in code that made Reset > Camino have the same behavior that Safari has/had, would you email > Apple and tell them that Safari must stop using the standard keychain > system in order to prevent data loss? > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Noemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's counterintuitive to be unable to reset one browser for fear of >> losing data you want to use in the other. > > Then I suggest that you contact the developers of any browser with a > reset function that has that behavior; Camino is not one of them. > > -Stuart > _______________________________________________ > Camino mailing list > Camino@mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/camino _______________________________________________ Camino mailing list Camino@mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/camino
