I' sorry for top-posting, but I can 't seem to get this particular mail 
system to change to something more usable.

There are a lot of so-called 'facts' about liabilities if you clear the 
snow from pavements, etc in the UK.

It is true that there are several laws on the statute concerning the 
clearance of snow and who is responsible. Basically the householder is 
required to clear the paths on their own property, and the local 
council is responsible for the public footpaths.

In the UK, Parliament makes the laws, but it is the courts who decide 
HOW the law is to be enforced. For example, if you clear the public 
footpath outside your property and put down some salt/grit (leaving it 
in better condition than it was before) then, if anybody then slips 
over, the court may decide that what you have done is reasonable and 
you are not liable. If you leave it in a worse condition, eg by leaving 
piles of ice alongside a narrow track that you have cleared so that 
someone trips over the pile of ice, then the courts may take the view 
that it would have been better if you had left it alone.

I say the courts "*may* take the view" because, as far as I understand 
it, the point has never been tested in a court of law. What has 
appeared in the press is legal opinion as to what the situation would 
be if the bare law was applied in full without any regard to the 
situation applying at the time.

However, the unelected insurance companies who now govern the lives of 
the people in the UK through 'public liability' may have a different 
view under 'Health and Safety' rules of their own making.

DaveD


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil & Anne Irons <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:43
Subject: Re: [canals-list] Re: S'all gorn quiet


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Bruce Napier <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>
> >SNIP<
>


> There's the whole issue of public liability for householders who try
> to clear snow from their frontages, but we probably don't want to go
> there ;-}
>

That's very interesting. Here in Sydney, home and business owners are
required, by a municipal by-law, to keep their frontage clear of snow 
and
ice. Granted the fine isn't very much, but the threat is still there.
Also, there is the possibility of the owner being sued if a pedestrian
slips and falls while walking on his/her frontage.

I understand that almost the opposite is true in the UK. Curious.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN STARTING A BRANCH THREAD
CONCERNING DIFFERENCES IN LEGAL SYSTEMS IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES!

Cheers, and happy icebreaking! [?]

Phil
nb straightandnarrow


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