On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Daniel Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:05 AM, William G. Thompson, Jr.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Daniel Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM, William G. Thompson, Jr.
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Team,
>> >>
>> >> Unicon has already implemented MFA in CAS for a few clients and we
>> >> were just awarded a contract to build a modular extension to the CAS
>> >> Server to support multi-factor, and levels of assurance along the
>> >> lines of the vision articulated in
>> >> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/CAS/Level+Of+Assurance+-+Head+document
>> >>
>> >> This project requires that the resulting CAS server customizations be
>> >> released as free and open source software for adoption with and in CAS
>> >> (i.e. as cas-addons or the Jasig distribution).  We intend to engage
>> >> with the community throughout the implementation.
>> >>
>> >> This project provides a real world deployment scenario to build upon
>> >> the authN API work that Marvin has completed thus far.  So I think
>> >> this is good news for CAS 4.1/5.0 in that we can be assured that the
>> >> work to date on authN API, MFA, and LOA will yield deployable code
>> >> even though it didn't ship with 4.0.
>> >>
>> >> In terms of "big features" for 4.0, I think we've made substantial
>> >> progress along a number of paths that lead to a more supple,
>> >> extensible and elegant CAS server that is a joy to install, configure
>> >> and run[1].
>> >>
>> >> * Externalizing SAML as an optional support
>> >> * Upgrades to all dependancies
>> >> * OAuth support improvements
>> >> * Externalized Services Management Webapp
>> >> * A bunch of security related improvements including encrypting
>> >> clearpass cache by default
>> >> * Many other improvements.
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't see anything here that merits a major release. What's the
>> > problem
>> > with pushing the release date so the authN API features can be included
>> > in
>> > 4.0?
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> The current dev cycle started last summer and we've already pushed the
>> release date several months.  In that time, additional scope has
>> continually been added.  At some point in time the project has to trim
>> scope and cut a release.
>>
>> I'm sure there would be no objection to sliding the date a few days or
>> even a week or so.
>>
>
> I can certainly appreciate the value of adhering to a schedule. If this was
> a 3.x cut no one would be complaining, but it's a major release and the
> features aren't indicative of one. So what's the rush? Less than 12 months
> is a short dev cycle for a major release anyway. Lets push it back and give
> people a reason to want 4.0.

Versioning is dictated by the release strategy described on the CAS
Roadmap.  The current master contains significant changes in default
behavior and configuration which would require a major revision bump.
Even if the authN API changes make it (and I hope they do) it would
not represent a "big feature" from a deployer perspective as that work
is mostly refactoring in preparation for future work.  It would
however also dictate a major revision since it is changing public
published APIs.

12 months is a long time for the original scope agreed upon at the
Jasig conference last June.  The initial plan was to get a 4.0 early
in 2013, knowing that folks will probably wait for 4.0.1/4.1 to really
start to take a look at it.

There will always be another release...

Best,
Bill


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