There are some details I need to double check before I draw the full detail. Many of the parts are from the original chocker style adjuster. I think the lower port stay goes to a triangle plate and then both the 4:1 fiddle base and the port cascade wire attach there. That keeps all the forces applied where as Catalina expected them. Sometimes we forget there are hidden structural elements in the deck and hull of a Catalinas.
Phil Agur <http://www.cuttergraphics.com/> Cutter Graphics -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Back Stay Wow Phil, You're my hero! Thanks. I was going with something very similar to that. Lance Jones Cruising Captain, Barefoot Sailing Club Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce! Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel! ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Agur <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Back Stay It looks like this. http://www.cuttergraphics.com/Back%20stay%20adjuster.jpg Phil -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Jones Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Back Stay Thanks Phil and David. Good info. Lance Jones Cruising Captain, Barefoot Sailing Club Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce! Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel! ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Agur <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Back Stay Lance, Wing Tip sports a double cascade rig originally designed for the Mumm 30 racing fleet on San Francisco Bay by the riggers at Swenson's Marine in Alameda. We'd have to compare the upper back stay wire lengths on the rigging specs but I can't see why it would work nearly the same. If you look at the C270 profile I wrote you can part of it. My problem was the split stay passing through the bimini that's wasn't on for that photo. The bimini had zippers to allow for the stock arrangement to function but this one is a lot better. The new double cascade set-up also allows me to go very slack when I'm raising or lowering my mast single handed. However If I was using Wing Tip in open Ocean and expected to push her service limits I'd return to the stock rigging. Racing gear always carries a little more risk with it and it only takes one unscheduled going very slack mistake in heavy conditions to ruin your crossing. Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip Secretary/Treasurer Call Sign WCW3485 IC27/270A MMSI 366901790 <http://www.catalina27.org/> www.catalina27.org Vessel Doc# 1039809 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Jones Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Back Stay I do need the adjuster as she does race at times. The adjuster is removable; but, I am looking for an alternative, less complicated arrangement. Lance Jones Cruising Captain, Barefoot Sailing Club Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce! Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel! ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Back Stay Lance, if you are using the ladder you don't need the backstay adjuster. Isn't it removable? Bob Mann -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Lance Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy all! Hope you're having a great 4th o' July weekend. My boat has the standard, factory installed adjustable split back stay. One wire stay to each corner and the pulley system pinned in the middle of the transom. It works well; but, makes it hard to use the ladder which is right up the middle of the transom. Has anyone ever used a different type system that allows the center to be free? I have a system on my Capri 25 and on my C-22s that worked well with the adjustable portion being a series of blocks on one end and the line running through a block on the main back stay and going down to the other corner of the transom. Lance Jones Cruising Captain, Barefoot Sailing Club Catalina 27TR SN 5455 Gaelforce! Capri 25 SN 411 Scottish Rebel!
