Thanks everyone for all your information on the "Catalina Smile"  My Catalina 
27 is my first fiberglass boat and it is sort of a fixer upper to begin with.  
I was not aware of such challenges as the "Catalina Smile", but I'm still 
smiling.  I'll have to check on that after my next haul out.

Thanks again.

Brad

---- "Sneddon wrote: 
> Lots of boats get these smiles. My Brother's pristine and babied C&C 29
> MKII has one. You can get it a bunch of different ways, and some boats
> get abused and never get it. The real problem is that you have a highly
> loaded joint that is difficult (if not impossible) to make structurally
> efficient without eating up half the cabin and bisecting your bilge.
> That joint goes between two materials that behave very differently under
> load and temperature, and the two pieces probably didn't fit together
> very well in the first place. The joint and the material differences
> lead to differential flexing, and flexing leads to cracks. Everything
> you put on the outside bottom of the boat (gelcoat, filler, bottom
> paint, etc.) does not handle tension well.
> 
>  
> 
> Keith Sneddon
> 
> #4760, "Are We There Yet"? 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Shugarts
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When I had the C-25 I thought that way, too. I had this partner, and he
> would take the boat out and hit things. 
> 
> One time he hit a whistle buoy dead-on, and blamed it on his (soon to be
> ex-) wife not getting the spinnaker down quick enough. 
> 
> Anyway, he dragged our keel across about five rocks and I figured
> whatever happened to the keel was his doing. But then I looked around
> the boat yards and found perfectly well kept Catalina keels, but with
> the smile. 
> 
> Then I realized that our boat yard for the C-25 had a bunch of
> Neanderthals (I don't want to name names, but Captain's Cove in
> Bridgeport, CT) and they never did anything special to block the keel.
> When I got to the C-27 and a club situation, our club has a very
> experienced, careful person who leads the land crew at haulout and he
> already knew to block the forward end.
> 
> Font?
> 
> --Dave S.
> 
> On 4/9/08 3:38 PM, "tim ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I was always under the impression that the "smile" was more a function
> of
> > stresses encountered when under sail, e.g., falling off a wave in a
> big
> > chop or piling on a bunch of canvas and racing in 25 kn, that
> kind-o-thing.
> > 
> > Certainly seems that a lotta weight on keel sumps (that went thru a
> range of
> > building conditions and materials) is likely to cause significant
> > flexxing in breezier conditions and it seems like this would be the
> > source of keel joint separation, rather than the way the boat is
> blocked up
> > for the off-season.
> > 
> > hey, what's with this font?
> > 
> > tf
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > David Shugarts wrote:
> >> With my C-27 and people being more careful when they set the boat on
> land
> >> each fall, we put an extra 3/4 inch, or even 1-1/2 inch underneath
> the
> >> forward end of the keel, relative to the aft end. I have had the boat
> eight
> >> years and no "smile" has developed.
> >> 
> >> --Dave S.
> >> 
> >>   
> > 
>

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