Hi, Brad--
On some boats, but not all, there is a crack that develops at the forward
part of the joint of the keel to the hull. It will serve as an indicator of
where the fiberglass bilge meets the actual keel. It looks like impending
doom, but it appears to be a cosmetic situation (I will let others speak to
any cases of where it might have been serious). I had it on my C-25 and
plastered it occasionally with filler, but it never got any worse or caused
any problem in seven years.
With my C-27 and people being more careful when they set the boat on land
each fall, we put an extra 3/4 inch, or even 1-1/2 inch underneath the
forward end of the keel, relative to the aft end. I have had the boat eight
years and no "smile" has developed.
--Dave S.
On 4/9/08 2:52 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Dave,
>
> Interesting discussion. I'm a new Catalina 27 owner... new owner, not new
> Catalina. Just curious what you mean by the "Catalina Smile". You referring
> to the boat's sheer or something like that?
>
> Brad
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> ---- David Shugarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Hi, Joe--
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>> When you support the boat under the keel (and in yards, they set it on the
>> keel and then put poppets around it), the hull is given a certain set of
>> loads and stresses. When you support the hull but allow the keel to hang,
>> this is a different set of loads and stresses.
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>> I would say it is all right to do one or the other, but I suspect from
>> looking at a Catalina cradle that they would prefer you to support the keel.
>> But IMHO, I don¹t think it would be good to frequently switch between the
>> two methods. The inboard engines tend to change prop shaft alignment as the
>> weight distribution changes, for one thing. Also, the ³Catalina smile² could
>> be mostly a function of how the boat is stored.
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>> Regards,
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>> Dave S. (Demitri)
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>> On 4/9/08 8:42 AM, "Joe McCary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> When I say a lift, I mean a frame that sinks below the floating boat that is
>>> then winched (electrical winch) up clear of the water. My source of the
>>> lift
>>> suggests that I do not need to support the keel, instead just let it hand
>>> below and support the hull. He suggested that I use a pair of carpeted
>>> rails
>>> that run almost the length of the boat and mostly under the boat to support
>>> it
>>> and let the keel hang in the open air.
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>>> Joe McCary
>>> Aeolus II, West River, MD
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:17 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
>>>
>>> My take is that the cradle for drysailing is going to need to be incredibly
>>> wide and stout. When you trailer, the mast is down. When you say lift, do
>>> you
>>> mean hoist, or one of those floating things?
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>>> Keith Sneddon
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>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:45 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
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>>> Joe, call Catalina for cradle info. They sent me one when I was inquiring
>>> about trailering. It was specifically for the C-27 that had all the
>>> dimensions for the factory cradle. The one I had is no where to be found.
>>>
>>> Jeff
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe McCary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 1:23 pm
>>> Subject: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
>>> I am considering getting a lift for the Catalina 27. This would allow me to
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>>> and we are negotiating on the price. My question here is how would I best
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