Hey Dave,

Interesting discussion.  I'm a new Catalina 27 owner... new owner, not new 
Catalina.  Just curious what you mean by the "Catalina Smile".  You referring 
to the boat's sheer or something like that?

Brad



---- David Shugarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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> Hi, Joe--
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> When you support the boat under the keel (and in yards, they set it on the
> keel and then put poppets around it), the hull is given a certain set of
> loads and stresses. When you support the hull but allow the keel to hang,
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> I would say it is all right to do one or the other, but I suspect from
> looking at a Catalina cradle that they would prefer you to support the keel.
> But IMHO, I don¹t think it would be good to frequently switch between the
> two methods. The inboard engines tend to change prop shaft alignment as the
> weight distribution changes, for one thing. Also, the ³Catalina smile² could
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> Regards,
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> Dave S. (Demitri)
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> On 4/9/08 8:42 AM, "Joe McCary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > When I say a lift, I mean a frame that sinks below the floating boat that is
> > then winched (electrical winch) up clear of the water.  My source of the 
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> > Joe McCary
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:17 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
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> > My take is that the cradle for drysailing is going to need to be incredibly
> > wide and stout. When you trailer, the mast is down. When you say lift, do 
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> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:45 PM
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> > Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
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> > Joe, call Catalina for cradle info. They sent me one when I was inquiring
> > about trailering.  It was specifically for the C-27 that had all the
> > dimensions for the factory cradle. The one I had is no where to be found.
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> > From: Joe McCary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 1:23 pm
> > Subject: catalina27-talk: Dry Sailing a Catalina 27
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