I need more info, too-but I'm wondering whether I'm just too tired this late
at night or if it's been too long since I've been on the water.  Tom, I'm
finding that I'm confused by something you said.  You say you're fighting
rounding up when you heel past 15 degrees-so I'm thinking you're, well,
pulling the rudder away from the water.  But you say you're dragging a
tiller through the water, which seems to me you're fighting a lee helm and
turning the rudder to keep from bearing off, not a weather helm-and if
that's the case, and your mast is vertical, you've moved your center of
effort forward instead of aft where you want it.  

 

Ah, nuts-I should just stay out of this.  I start doubting myself even
writing about this-and I'm supposed to be wrapping up my amended tax return
anyway.  Deadlines.  What made me most confused was that I find myself
doubting Judy-and who in their right mind would doubt Judy, for heaven's
sake?  But if you're sailing upwind, and you get a gust-without a change in
actual wind direction-doesn't the apparent wind shift more toward the nose
rather than come from more on the beam?  I mean, I end drew a vector diagram
and it seems to bear me out.  But I'm tired, so I'll just sit back and let
you folks gently explain to me why I'm all wrong and how I should get out on
the darn water once in awhile instead of working in this office.

 

Dave Shaddock

Standard rig, too, and only 1977-so I'm even more out of touch.

 

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Need more info but at first glance, just ease the main.  Helm should ease up
and allow you more control.  Sheet in when the breeze comes off a bit.  

 

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Judy ... 

I have tried and tried to get my '86 tall rig to balance ... "two fingers on
the tiller" as you put it. Right now, the mast is straight up and down,
which is about six inches further forward than I was told to start. At
anything past 10 degrees heel angle, I'm holding on, and past 15 degress
heel angle I'm starting to fight rounding up. At .20 degress, all efficiency
is gone and I'm dragging a tiller through the water. Bottom is clean, and I
don't know what else to do. Ideas? 

Tom 







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Hi all, 
  
I sail in 20-25-30 knots all the time.  Got a tall rig with that giant
foretriangle, and roller furler.   Rear traveller and tiller.   Most of the
time, I've got a 95% jib on.  That's roughly equivalent to a 110% on a
regular rig.  She's fine with that from about 10 to 35 knots with the 95%
jib.   As the wind builds and if it's gusty (which it always is here), we
twist off the jib and mainsail first if it's gusty, then 1st reef, then take
a 2nd reef.   
  
Her rig is tuned so that I can control her with just 2 fingers on the
tiller.  Putting a lot of twist in both the jib and the mainsail and playing
the traveller takes care of heeling in the gusts most of the time.   
  
Like Paul A says, when it's gusty and there's chop,  you want to shape the
sails for acceleration, not speed.  I loosen the halyard/cunningham to put a
rounded entry in the mainsail so they have a wider range of angle of attack
without stalling, and they accelerate faster.   
  
For the off-season in the winter (winds from 0-15), we use a 135% on a
roller furler.  That's equivalent to a 150% on a regular rig.  We typically
furl going up wind in anything over 12-15 knots, and maybe let it out going
downwind.  Sometimes we've got it up in higher winds and let it out all the
way going downwind.  It's a hoot going downwind in 20 knots on swells, and
there's a danger of broaching -- but it's exhilerating .  but I wouldn't
want to try beating upwind with it! 
  
We don't race.  We double hand.  We're lazy, but pretty fast.   
  
Judy B 





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