Thanks Tim: I wouldn't think of breaking a law to get the target numbers; just thought that with all of the experience of the list members, someone would have something that I could use as a baseline.
I read Dennis Connor's book "Sail like a champion", and he also mentioned both polar charts and target speeds. Steve Bayless #3491 "Liebchen" Port Huron, MI On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, we have been dancing around that one, Steve. In all honesty, > I dont remember ever seeing polars for the C27....but I have a notoriously > bad memory. > > One thing about polars, at least the ones for some boats, is that they are > copyrighted and not for duplication unless a fee is paid...I dont know if > that's true for the C27 or not (but I can name a bunch of boats for which > is true!). > > Phil would know if they exist...also, it's possible that Carl S. had them > on his website way back when...I can check with Carl. > > BACK to the "targets" discussion, here is Dave Ullman's take on using > them, after he won the Melges 24 Worlds in 2007: > > "I'm a huge believer in sailing by the speedo and following my target > numbers. Without the speedo you're going to sail around three- or > four-tenths too slow all the time. Our target range is 5.8 to 6.0, so > let's say I'm sailing along and my target at the moment is 5.8. If I'm > sailing at 5.4, all I do is let the sheet out 2 inches and within 10 > seconds I'll be sailing at 5.8 again. You couldn't possibly do that > without a speedo. > > The key is you want to go as high as you can while keeping to that target > range. The goal is to steer the least amount possible. Just make the boat > go absolutely straight until you see a wave you can't get through. If you > have to go around a wave, look for the flattest place in the area and sail > through that." > > This (above) was taken off SW's website under an article: > > http://www.sailingworld.com/from-the-experts/winners-debriefs/dave-ullman-melges-24-worlds-52932.html > > I'll get back to ya after checking with Carl. > > tf > > > > But again.... > > > > Anyone have any of these target speeds and/or polar charts available to > > them? That was my original question. At this point, it appears that I'm > > SOL. > > > > Steve Bayless > > #3491 "Liebchen" > > Port Huron, MI > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> hence my use of the words "mythical" and "targets" > >> > >> you should read Dave Ullman on targets if you think they are not useful! > >> Literally > >> every big boat program I've sailed on uses them and I think the results > >> speak for > >> themselves! > >> > >> tf > >> > >> > >> > If you sail the boat to > >> > match polars you will not win many races. He did say that the pro > >> sailors > >> > sail to maybe 95% potential. > >> > > >> > Joe McCary > >> > Aeolus II, West River, MD #4795 > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > On Behalf Of tim ford > >> > > >> > I think 90% of handicap racing is making the boat go as close to 100% > >> > optimum speed as close to 100% of the time as possible. Having > >> > targets and constantly trying to sail to them is vital toward getting > >> to > >> > that mythical 100/100 quotient....something only Terry Hutchinson > >> > seems capable of doing, these days.... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >> > signature > >> > database 3615 (20081115) __________ > >> > > >> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >> > > >> > http://www.eset.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/porthuronfreecycle/ > > > > > > -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/porthuronfreecycle/
