James,

 

Prop diameter and pitch are subject to a lot of variables. Selecting the
right prop is very dependant on water temperature, salinity, gearing, and
horsepower.  So I would recommend you only take the advice of someone
sailing in similar condition with the exact engine transmission. 

 

I have a Martec III, which I did pick up used, after getting the
recommendation from a well respected local prop and machine company in
Alameda. John is quite right about the eventual annoyance of having to leave
the cockpit and manually index the hinge pin to vertical. 

 

I think either Alameda Prop and Machine or Martec has a website calculator
for prop selection. The sailing performance boost is really worth it in
lighter air. When the wind is roaring 40 knots you'll wish for a little more
drag.  

 

Phil Agur
<http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip 
Secretary,                    C270 LE #184
IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
www.catalina27.org <http://www.catalina27.org/>     Vessel Doc# 1039809

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Henderson
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Folding prop

 

Thanks for the advice guys. Actually, I am hoping to buy used on eBay--hence
the need for specs. John, I am currently climbing back to align my
two-bladed prop vertically behind the keel for what little that does. So, if
I have to climb back with the Martec at least I'm already used to doing
that! 
 
James



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Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Folding prop
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:50:47 -0500



Hi Jim,

 

I have an 85, 5874, TR.  It came with a folding prop, a Martec.  Since I
have had nothing else, I can't compare with a regular prop.  The other big
brand is a Gori.  The Martec has blades that pivot and fold back.  Each one
pivots individually so if the shaft happens to stop with the blades oriented
vertically, all is well and the blades will fold back parallel to each
other.  On the other hand, if the shaft happens to stop with the upper blade
horizontal, then the lower blade will hang down and if you are really
serious as I am when racing, I have to crawl back into the quarter berth and
turn the shaft until it is oriented properly.

 

The Gori is a geared prop.  Both blades are geared together so whatever
position one is in, the other is in the same position.

 

If I were buying a folding prop today, I would buy a Gori although it is
several hundred dollars more than the Martec.  I am getting tired of
crawling back in the quarter berth to twist the prop shaft to align the
blades.  When we are not racing, I don't worry about the orientation.

 

I sent my prop back to Martec during the 06/07-winter season to be
refurbished.  Their invoice states "Clean and Rebalance a 13 x 12 x 1 RH
MKIII which means nothing to me.  I know the size and pitch are stamped on
the prop but my boat is in the water.

 

Dave Hoy's recommendation that you contact the manufacturers is very good.
I'm sure they have specs on C27s and can recommend the proper size.

 

John Emmerich

5874 TR

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Hoy
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Folding prop

 

Hi Jim, 

 

Wyanokee is a standard '86.  There's been discussions over the years so I
think you'll probably get a number of  recommendations and discussion from
others.  We sail and race on Penobscot Bay in the Gulf of Maine where the
leading industry is lobstering.  I bought a Martec to replace the standard
three bladed prop.  I couldn't live without it!  Prior to putting it on the
boat we were catching lobster pots every time we went out.  Now, we sail
right through the floats and lines and don't give it a thought; in fact, I
don't think we've caught a pot since putting it on in 2003.  If you contact
Martec (they have a website) they will tell you what you will need as they
have the specifications for the boat.  It will increase your speed under
sail perhaps as much as half a knot.  Under power we may loose as much as
half a knot; it hasn't been a problem and I frankly haven't noticed any
difference.  You should be able to install it without modification.

 

Good luck!

 

Dave Hoy

WYANOKEE #6295

Camden, Maine 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: James <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Henderson 

 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:42 AM

Subject: catalina27-talk: Folding prop

 

 

Does anyone have a folding prop, and can you recommend a size/pitch? I have
a Universal M-18 engine. 

 

Thanks,

James

 

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