On 01.03.2013 12:30, Jesse Noller wrote: > Marc Andre: I'm cc'ing Van: can you explain why the pypi terms are a bummer > so we can see if there is actually an issue to be resolved or a matter of > taste? > > We need to protect the foundation while preserving author rights - but I > don't want one user / subset dictating how we evolve the technology.
I think we should move this discussion to the python-legal-sig list: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-legal-sig Let me know when you've subscribed and then we can hash things out on that list. The catalog sig is not really the suitable place for these discussions. > Jesse > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:24 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <m...@egenix.com> wrote: > >> On 01.03.2013 10:02, Reinout van Rees wrote: >>> On 28-02-13 21:08, holger krekel wrote: >>>>> I have seen that position in this discussion ("I have to upload 120 >>>>>> files per release, so I won't do that", for instance). >>> >>>> haven't seen that. >>> >>> Marc-Andre Lemburg said this, which I took to mean 120 uploads per release: >>> >>> """ >>> However, taking our egenix-mx-base package as example, we have >>> 120 distribution files for every single release. Uploading those >>> to PyPI would not only take long, but also ... >>> """ >> >> Correct, with a total of over 100MB per release. However, the above >> quote is slightly incorrect: I did not say "I won't do that", just >> that there are issues with doing this: >> >> * It currently takes too long uploading that many files to >> PyPI. This causes a problem, since in order to start the upload, >> we have to register the release on PyPI, which tools will then >> immediately find. However, during the upload time, they won't >> necessarily find the right files to download and then fail. >> >> The proposed pull mechanism (see >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPI/DownloadMetaDataProposal) >> would work around this problem: tools would simply go to >> our servers in case they can't find the files on PyPI. >> >> * PyPI doesn't allow us to upload two egg files with the same >> name: we have to provide egg files for UCS2 Python builds and >> UCS4 Python builds, since easy_install/setuptools/pip don't >> differentiate between the two variants. This is the main >> reason why we're hosting our own PyPI-style indexes, one for >> UCS2 and the other for UCS4 builds: >> https://downloads.egenix.com/python/index/ucs2/ >> https://downloads.egenix.com/python/index/ucs4/ >> >> * I'm not sure whether we want to import our crypto packages >> to the US, so for a subset of the files, we'd probably >> continue to use our servers in Germany. >> >> Again, with the above proposal, this shouldn't be a problem. >> >> * Ihe PyPI terms are a bummer for us, but this can be fixed, >> I guess. >> >> If we can resolve the issues, we'd have no problem having the >> files mirrored on PyPI. >> >> -- >> Marc-Andre Lemburg >> eGenix.com >> >> Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Mar 01 2013) >>>>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>>>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: >> >> eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 >> D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg >> Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 >> http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Catalog-SIG mailing list >> Catalog-SIG@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/catalog-sig -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Mar 01 2013) >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ _______________________________________________ Catalog-SIG mailing list Catalog-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/catalog-sig
