Hi,
In order to do a proper justification and persuade your manager, you should 
identify clear metrics.
For example, if you are responsible for a certain troubleshooting task, as a 
CCIE you could demonstrate that over the year, tickets in WAN, LAN, etc that 
normally should take 40 minutes each to be resolved could now be resolved in 20 
minutes each given the intense training you are about to go through.  If you 
have 300 tickets of that type per year, that you are saving 100h per year for 
your company. You multiply 100h x $40 = $4,000 savings/year (assuming salary at 
$40/h).
That said, I am sorry to say that your employer is the not the only out there; 
my employer and perhaps the MAJORITY of employers think the same way. Also, in 
my humble opinion a CCIE may indeed be an overkiller for some environments. It 
is not hard to understand why employers fear that once you achieve it, you may 
run with it :-)
Ron

 




Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:06:44 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Justification for having a CCIE on staff

Mitch,

I don't understand why a boss is so afraid of losing an employee. In my opinion 
a boss's core job is to enable the employees to do their job. If an employee 
excels so well that they become distinguished and reach CCIE level, then you 
are exceling as a boss (leader). I don't see any advantage of supressing 
employees as your boss is doing because ultimately you will obtain your CCIE 
and end up hating your boss for not supporting you. In the end you will end up 
leaving for another company if your skillset demands a salary range your 
current employers is unable to match.


Your boss would be wise to add the funds for your CCIE training to the budget 
and make you sign an agreement to pay back the funds if you leave before x 
amount of years.

-Justin




On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Mitch Peterson <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I know this isn't directly related to the studying for my IE. However, I 
figured you guys were the best group to ask this question since a few have you 
may have gone though something similar.

I'm putting together my portion of the budget for the next years department 
budget.  I've put a CCIE bootcamp class in as well as my lab fees.  My boss is 
pushing back on this saying that they can't justify having a CCIE on staff.  He 
seems to have bought into the hype that CCIEs make ungodly sums of money and 
that he wouldn't be able to keep me on staff because he thinks I'm going to ask 
for $100K or more.  Anyway, how can I explain that not only is it worth it to 
have a CCIE on staff but it behooves them to assist in paying for training. My 
take is that since I'm responsible for about 700 remote sites as well as the 
corporate office, I think that justifies it in an of itself.



Thanks,
Mitch


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