Thanks to Bob & Donald!

Those were certainly superb explanations making the understanding pretty clear 
for me!

-RS


________________________________
 From: Bob McCouch <[email protected]>
To: Rostam Sohrab <[email protected]> 
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Correct Understanding the RIP timers!
 

Best way to see this is to lab it up. I set up a very simple network with R1 
and R2 connected via ethernet. I advertised a loopback from R2 into RIP, and 
then on R2 set the ethernet interface passive to stop routing updates without 
giving IOS any hints by dropping the interface. Here's what happened:

R1#sh ip ro | b Gate
Gateway of last resort is not set

     10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
R       10.1.0.0 [120/1] via 10.1.124.2, 00:00:12, FastEthernet0/0
C       10.1.124.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

R1#sh clock
22:03:17.475 UTC Wed Jan 19 2011
R1#!This is when I set Fa0/0 passive on R2

R1#
Jan 19 22:05:56.975: RIP-DB: invalidated route of 10.1.0.0/24 via 10.1.124.2
Jan 19 22:05:56.979: RT: delete route to 10.1.0.0 via 10.1.124.2, rip metric 
[120/1]
Jan 19 22:05:56.979: RT: no routes to 10.1.0.0, entering holddown
Jan 19 22:05:56.987: RIP-DB: Remove 10.1.0.0/24, (metric 4294967295) via 
10.1.124.2, FastEthernet0/0

R1#sh ip ro | b Gate                      
Gateway of last resort is not set

     10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
R       10.1.0.0/24 is possibly down,
          routing via 10.1.124.2, FastEthernet0/0
C       10.1.124.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0

R1#
Jan 19 22:06:56.991: RIP-DB: garbage collect 10.1.0.0/24
Jan 19 22:06:56.995: RT: delete subnet route to 10.1.0.0/24

R1#sh ip ro | b Gate
Gateway of last resort is not set

     10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C       10.1.124.0 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/0


So 3 minutes after the last received update, the route was marked invalid, and 
60 seconds after that the route was flushed. So all timers are running 
concurrently, the update timer, the invalid/holddown timers, and the flush 
timer.


Bob


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Rostam Sohrab <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>I have a little confusion in the understanding of RIP timers.
>
>First the basics...
>
>update timer is 30 secs --> Invalid timers should be 3 times of update i.e 
>90secs but the default is 180secs --> Holddown timers should be 3 times of 
>update i.e, 90secs but the default is 180secs --> Flush timer, default is 240 
>secs. 
>
>Now there are three parts to my question...
>
>The first question might sound silly but for the sake of a clear understanding 
>I'll write it. 
>
>
>1. Does the RIP updates timers work is series? i.e after one elapses the other 
>starts?
>
>ex: once U-30sec is over --> Invalid starts and runs for 180 secs --> Holddown 
>starts and runs for another 180secs --> And finally flush timer starts and 
>runs for 240secs.
>
>Here the total time would be 30+180+180+240=630secs until a route is flushed 
>out which is looking quite unreasonable!
>
>2. Does the Invalid, Holddown & flush timers work is parallel?
>
>ex: once U-30sec is over -> Invalid, Holddown runs for 180secs along with the 
>flushtimer which runs for 240secs?
>
>Here the total time would be 30+240=270secs until a route is flushed out which 
>looks very much acceptable.
>
>
>3. And why does the Invalid & Holddown timers run in parallel, if all they do? 
>
>Because at the end of these two timers (IT & HDT) it would take another 60secs 
>for flush timer to flush out the route, which means that all the timers 
>IT/HDT/FT are kicking off at the same time immediately after update timer 
>expires!
>
>I think I'm just complicating what is supposed to be a simple understanding!!! 
>
>-RS
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