Oh. I stand corrected. 

Hopefully I will soon have this problem to worry about. 
:-)

-Randy

On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:

> I passed of course, but not with 1000. There are things I don't know or have 
> forgotten ;-)
> 
> You are recertified for 2 years from your original recertification deadline. 
> The date when you pass your written is not relevant. So yeah, if you 
> recertify a month after you passed the lab, you're good for 4 years minus one 
> month ;-)
> 
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> 
> :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors and 
> brevity. ::
> 
> On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:45, Randy Knighton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I am pretty sure it only extends 2 years from the date you pass the written. 
>> 
>> -Randy
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Ken Wyan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Marko should have passed the test with 1000 marks.
>>> 
>>> I have one doubt about recertification. I passed CCIE Lab (first one) this
>>> year only.
>>> 
>>> If I pass a written CCIE test now , will my CCIE expiry date will be
>>> extended by 2 more years from the current CCIE expiry date? (from 2014 to
>>> 2016)
>>> Or will it extend to only 2 years from my new CCIE written exam date ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marko - Great Blog . Did you mention whether you passed the written or
>>>> not?? :)
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay McMickle
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:31 AM
>>>> To: IPExpert Online
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Cisco Live 2012 – CCIE R&S News
>>>> 
>>>> Marko,
>>>> Thanks for the info, and it was nice to meet you as well at the Hard Rock
>>>> Bar.
>>>> 
>>>> Good write up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> After 4 days of incredible technical sessions, social events and
>>>>> overall great fun, another Cisco Live has come to an end. Let’s see
>>>>> what’s new, if anything for those pursuing the CCIE R&S certification.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will divide this post in three sections. I will dedicate one to the
>>>>> CCIE R&S Written test, one to CCIE R&S Lab and the last one to the few
>>>>> hints and updates about future of the CCIE.
>>>>> Written Exam
>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
>>>>> - No format updates.
>>>>> - Opinion: The best Cisco certification test I have ever seen!
>>>>> Let me tell you a short story of my CCIE recertification.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As every year, I took the opportunity to recertify my CCIE at Cisco
>>>>> Live, since the exam is included with the full conference pass. A
>>>>> couple of days before taking, I expressed my concerns to Cisco’s CCIE
>>>>> Program Manager explaining how I feel – which was that I would be
>>>>> spending two hours of my life looking at misspelled questions, blurry
>>>>> diagrams and dealing with the overall pain that IT certification exams
>>>>> unfortunately are. Instead of a defensive response, he smiled and told
>>>>> me to take the exam and let him know I feel after taking the test –
>>>>> having added that HE took the quality as almost a personal goal.
>>>>> Knowing whom I’m dealing with there, I got instantly scared –
>>>>> wondering if I’d pass or not (I have great respect for that particular
>>>>> man – after all, you can’t be a nobody and run the CCIE R&S program!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I went to the test, started going through it and half-way through it
>>>>> hit me. This was probably the best ever Cisco certification test I
>>>>> have ever taken! All the diagrams were crystal clear and not only that
>>>>> – they had a consistent look and feel. Questions were tough and
>>>>> challenging.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After the exam, I took of to look for the said Program Manager and the
>>>>> only thing I could bring myself to say was “Well done!” I was
>>>>> positively surprised!
>>>>> Lab Exam
>>>>> - No blueprint changes.
>>>>> - No format updates.
>>>>> - Opinion: This blueprint is here to stay for at least a year.
>>>>> It’s really difficult to write an essay about something that has not
>>>>> changed since the last time I wrote about it. The best thing I can do
>>>>> is to link to my previous year report from CCIE R&S Techtorial at
>>>>> Cisco Live. Here is the link to that article: Cisco Live 2011 News and
>>>>> Updates: CCIE Routing and Switching. Everything said in the linked
>>>>> article pretty much remains the same, but let me also add a few things
>>>>> that were emphasized this time around.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The presenters emphasized heavily the quality assurance part of the
>>>>> exam process and explained the several steps in the lifecycle of the
>>>>> exam and associated blueprint. The goal is to create a high quality
>>>>> lab exam that is able to certify a minimally qualified candidate for
>>>>> the job role of a routing and switching network engineer. It’s
>>>>> interesting that there is even a separate multi-step process that
>>>>> deals with defining that job description and mapping technologies to
>>>>> it. It’s much less ad-hoc than most people think and contrary to
>>>>> popular belief, exams are not written by Proctors themselves.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another heavy emphasis was on the importance of the task dependencies
>>>>> in the configuration section of the test. While we are all aware of
>>>>> this importance, I have to stress out that some of the dependencies
>>>>> students encounter when being tested are not exactly obvious. In the
>>>>> presentation an extreme (for the lack of better word) example was used
>>>>> that got us all up in arms, but after some reflection, I believe they
>>>>> are absolutely right in using it as an illustration outlining
>>>>> unexpected behavior that could result in a loss of points. As an
>>>>> instructor, I also have to emphasize the importance of dependencies in
>>>>> the configuration section, obvious and not-so-obvious ones. This is,
>>>>> in my humble opinion, something that causes most people not to pass
>>>>> the test.
>>>>> Rumor Mill
>>>>> Let me clarify and reiterate the subtitle here: Everything you read
>>>>> below thins point may or may not happen. These are only bits and
>>>>> pieces hinted at the Cisco Live in public presentations, conversations
>>>>> I had in the Certifications Lounge between various engineers and
>>>>> Program Managers, and my direct interactions with Mr. John Chambers
>>>>> (Cisco CEO), whom I had the pleasure to briefly meet, as well as Ms.
>>>>> Jeanne Dunn (Vice President of Learning at Cisco), who was kind enough
>>>>> to provide me with some nice answers to my questions. None of these
>>>>> are confirmed news or plans.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I mentioned in the previous paragraph, I had the unique pleasure to
>>>>> meet with Mr. John Chambers during Cisco Live NetVet CCIE/CCDE
>>>>> reception and ask couple of questions. Since he is a very busy man, I
>>>>> had to carefully consider what I thought was of importance and one
>>>>> thing was extremely obvious to me. I really wanted to know when and if
>>>>> we can expect to have an officially sanctioned IOS emulator from Cisco.
>>>>> We all know it exists (IOU), but Cisco is not selling it to us. I was
>>>>> surprised to hear that not only are they committed to it, they even
>>>>> have an internally set date for the release of the product that will
>>>>> be an update to the existing Learning Labs. The updated product will
>>>>> allow customers to model their own virtual topologies and test their
>>>>> functionality. I have a feeling that this will be an amazing
>>>>> replacement for an aging unofficial emulator, GNS3 that served us
>>>>> faithfully for years. No information about pricing was given. I was
>>>>> referred to another Cisco eExecutive for further follow-up on this
>>>>> subject, which I will do soon and if the news are so interesting and
>>>>> exciting as I hope they are, I will update you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lastly, I want to talk about the new CCIE R&S version 5 blueprint…
>>>>> Yes, it’s coming, but not for a year at least. There are not even
>>>>> internal dates set, but work processes have started and this time next
>>>>> year, I will most likely be writing about the changes in the exam.
>>>>> What they will be is also not quite clear at this point and I can only
>>>>> speculate, which I will refrain from doing. Those of you who are
>>>>> planning on becoming CCIEs this year have no concerns about what happens
>>>> after that!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh – Also – thank you to all who walked over to me to introduce
>>>>> yourself and of course to those of you whom I already knew. Those who
>>>>> had CCIE ribbons – you know how proud I am of you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy studies!
>>>>> 
>>>>> –
>>>>> Marko Milivojevic – CCIE #18427
>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor – IPexpert
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