i'm wonder... why IPExpert don't try to get cisco IOU from Cisco in a official way.. to create BUNCH of tshoot labs..
or why don't do it with GNS3 if the cisco iou it's complette out of space... i mean... a HP Proliant DL360G5 with 2 Xeon 2.0Ghz with debian and 16GB of ram it's not too expensive to create a TSHOOT scenario with 20 routers + 2 or 3 FRSW's, and use the QinQ feature for arround 4 or 6 switches... i know the server it's not quite expensive, and make more "LIKE TSHOOT SECTION" at the end.. i know marko could make scarry scenarios with "LIKE LAB" approach, and make the hands more warm for those don't had the equipment or the experience on real life scenarios. i just propose that... as a TIP or something. edgar On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Adam Booth <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > These are just my thoughts about not getting to hung up about the topology > - there are other vendors which are similar to what you asking about and > they have a different approach to the technology transfer but I don't think > its relevant nor appropriate to discuss that here; however I found the IPX > material top notch and in part due to having a larger network topology to > play with as well as good workbook scenarios. > > The way that I see it is that one of the outcomes from all your hard work > is that you should be able to pass the CCIE lab and get your number and > plaque but that piece should be really considered as an acknowledgement of > your knowledge of technologies working singularly and in concert with > others across a variety of devices. Once you pass the CCIE lab, the > customers and companies you work for aren't going to have topologies the > same as the CCIE lab, so that concern about focusing only on passing the > lab and having a perfect fidelity environment matching the lab isn't > probably the right way to think about this. > > If anything having a dedicated FR Switch is a luxury that enables more > detailed technology study for that topic. For Cisco, I think its probably > more about their business realities of reducing the lab equipment footprint > and who knows if/when they go for virtualisation in config it could be > re-introduced. If you are using lab rentals or GNS3/Dynamips it's not such > a big deal. If you are building your home lab you can look at something > like a 2522 or a 2610 with a NM-4A/S - it probably wont cost you that much > on ebay even the cables. > > The troubleshooting story is a bit different though - the actual lab > topology there is quite large (around 30 devices) and trying to find the > right balance is difficult but if you consider it from Cisco's view here, I > think its more about trying to reduce the cumulative impact of > troubletickets on each other (e.g. if you can resolve ticket 3, it > generally shouldn't impact any other tickets) and introduce you to a > network you probably don't get too super familiar with (if you're stuck > with around 6 routers and 4 switches you probably aren't actually > troubleshooting because the problem space is somewhat more diminished and > are probably re-playing scenarios). It may be different now because I > haven't recently looked at IPX's product offerings for troubleshooting but > they were more interested in focusing on a technology by technology orderly > troubleshooting and resolution approach with the expectation that these > skills and tools again will be able to be translated to any environment > (i.e. be useful beyond facing the CCIE Lab) > > Cheers, > Adam Booth > CCIE #35951 > > Cheers, > Adam > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Jeremy Furr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > With the removal of the FR switch from the lab has IPexpert put out a new > > topology to study with update scenarios? > > > > Thanks > > Jeremy > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > - _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
