The moment they start selling it, we'll buy it. Alas, likelihood of that happening any time soon is 0.
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana < [email protected]> wrote: > i'm wonder... > > why IPExpert don't try to get cisco IOU from Cisco in a official way.. to > create BUNCH of tshoot labs.. > > or why don't do it with GNS3 if the cisco iou it's complette out of > space... i mean... > > a HP Proliant DL360G5 with 2 Xeon 2.0Ghz with debian and 16GB of ram it's > not too expensive to create a TSHOOT scenario with 20 routers + 2 or 3 > FRSW's, and use the QinQ feature for arround 4 or 6 switches... > > i know the server it's not quite expensive, and make more "LIKE TSHOOT > SECTION" at the end.. > > i know marko could make scarry scenarios with "LIKE LAB" approach, and make > the hands more warm for those don't had the equipment or the experience on > real life scenarios. > > i just propose that... as a TIP or something. > > edgar > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Adam Booth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Jeremy, > > > > These are just my thoughts about not getting to hung up about the > topology > > - there are other vendors which are similar to what you asking about and > > they have a different approach to the technology transfer but I don't > think > > its relevant nor appropriate to discuss that here; however I found the > IPX > > material top notch and in part due to having a larger network topology to > > play with as well as good workbook scenarios. > > > > The way that I see it is that one of the outcomes from all your hard work > > is that you should be able to pass the CCIE lab and get your number and > > plaque but that piece should be really considered as an acknowledgement > of > > your knowledge of technologies working singularly and in concert with > > others across a variety of devices. Once you pass the CCIE lab, the > > customers and companies you work for aren't going to have topologies the > > same as the CCIE lab, so that concern about focusing only on passing the > > lab and having a perfect fidelity environment matching the lab isn't > > probably the right way to think about this. > > > > If anything having a dedicated FR Switch is a luxury that enables more > > detailed technology study for that topic. For Cisco, I think its > probably > > more about their business realities of reducing the lab equipment > footprint > > and who knows if/when they go for virtualisation in config it could be > > re-introduced. If you are using lab rentals or GNS3/Dynamips it's not > such > > a big deal. If you are building your home lab you can look at something > > like a 2522 or a 2610 with a NM-4A/S - it probably wont cost you that > much > > on ebay even the cables. > > > > The troubleshooting story is a bit different though - the actual lab > > topology there is quite large (around 30 devices) and trying to find the > > right balance is difficult but if you consider it from Cisco's view > here, I > > think its more about trying to reduce the cumulative impact of > > troubletickets on each other (e.g. if you can resolve ticket 3, it > > generally shouldn't impact any other tickets) and introduce you to a > > network you probably don't get too super familiar with (if you're stuck > > with around 6 routers and 4 switches you probably aren't actually > > troubleshooting because the problem space is somewhat more diminished and > > are probably re-playing scenarios). It may be different now because I > > haven't recently looked at IPX's product offerings for troubleshooting > but > > they were more interested in focusing on a technology by technology > orderly > > troubleshooting and resolution approach with the expectation that these > > skills and tools again will be able to be translated to any environment > > (i.e. be useful beyond facing the CCIE Lab) > > > > Cheers, > > Adam Booth > > CCIE #35951 > > > > Cheers, > > Adam > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Jeremy Furr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > With the removal of the FR switch from the lab has IPexpert put out a > new > > > topology to study with update scenarios? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Jeremy > > > _______________________________________________ > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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