You can try, but you are probably wasting time. I`ve asked the same question (because i`ve had the same issues) at networkers in Barcelona, but no results. The statement is, we don`t care how you do it, as long as it works, so for instance , if you have 4 questions that can only be tested if you have an E1 up, however you failed to set it up correctly. And you are sure you have the 4 remaining questions correct, you will fail all 5 questions (basterds !!!)
It`s not fair i know, however at the moment we are stuck with this kind of grading. sorry. erik On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, if that's the case, then i am horrified at my score. I mean my > score for the call routing section is 0%. How is that even possible? I > knew that i didn't have time to complete the test, so i spent extra time on > just one section to see how it is graded. I verified that all calls were > successful and all requirements were met. Hell... there were many questions > in that section, and i received zero point for that section? > > Does anyone know if there is a Cisco contact where one can inquire some > questions about the lab exam and its grading process? > > > JD > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:44:46 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb > > Here is an excerpt from the report card. > > "Your CCIE Certification Lab exam was scored based on grading policies > that are adhered to uniformly by our proctors worldwide. Marking was based > on whether the answer you provided works. Candidates are not required to > use a set methodology in achieving a correct result. The imperative is > that the solution provided produces the outcome requested. " > I do believe that they actually grade you correctly but again there are > chances of proctors messing up as well. > > Like Scott mentioned, I would just focus on things I can control and > forget the rest... better luck next time buddy... > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > They told me the reason why they don't hold the voice exams is because > they would take up a lot more storage (hard drives/images of 3 servers, > router configs, etc.) vs. just backing up a few config files from a > router/switch to a text file for the R&S lab. > > Sorry. > > > On 4/5/08, *Jonathan Charles* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What?!?!? > > > Jonathan > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Correct. BUT not available for voice though, Jonathon. > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah, as I thought: > > > > > > "Reevaluation of Results > > > > > > If you are concerned your results are in error, you may request a > > > "reread" until 14 days after your lab date via an email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each reread costs $250.00 USD and consists of a > > > proctor loading your configurations into a rack to recreate the test > > > and re-score the entire exam. This process may take up to three weeks > > > after receipt of payment" > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > There is a rescore option... isn't there? There was for the R&S... > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Scott Monasmith < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Devildoc, I do feel your frustration. I finished my last attempt > in a > > little > > > > > over 5 hours and spent the next 3 hours verifying my work. I > walked > > out of > > > > > the exam feeling like I nailed it. However, based on my score > report, > > it > > > > > reflected a score of about 74-76 points. There were 3 sections > where > > the > > > > > score came out and I was left scratching my head thinking "how > can > > this be?" > > > > > - Talk about deflating. I had plenty of time to verify everthing > and > > I felt > > > > > very good about my chances. And to this day I still have no idea > how > > I could > > > > > have missed points on those sections. > > > > > > > > > > To me, there are 2 things we can do: > > > > > 1. study harder > > > > > 2. after each failed attempt, continue to stress to cisco (via > the > > critique > > > > > in your score report) that a re-score option needs to be > established > > for the > > > > > exam. > > > > > > > > > > If I'm spending $2,000 (exam + travel) for each attempt, the > least > > they can > > > > > do is reassure us that they are doing everything possible to > ensure > > that > > > > > there are no errors in the grading. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, a proctor told me that voice is the most challenging to > grade > > since > > > > > there is more than one way to achieve the desired results > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I ran into the same problem with the R&S lab... there might be > 3 or > > 4 > > > > > > ways to do something, but only one of them gets you points... > not > > sure > > > > > > if this is the same thing on the CCIE Voice lab... but I would > bet > > it > > > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > No idea on how they grade the test. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I think a lot has to do with how you use the proctor... so, > if > > > > > > there are 2 ways to do something, that means to go to the > proctor > > and > > > > > > say, 'hey, I have way A and way B... which one is preferred?' > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I would bet that one of those ways doesn't meet the > > > > > > requirements... which is why this test is as difficult as it > is... > > > > > > because you are going to have to know why 'way B' doesn't > work... > > > > > > which means a deep understanding of not just how to configure > > > > > > something, but in the way it works at a protocol level. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example... let's say I wanted you to set up CAC for a > specific > > > > > > location. Now, no big, right, just set up locations-based > CAC... or > > > > > > use the GK... both work... both will provide CAC... but let's > say I > > > > > > added to that, 'make sure that you can adjust bandwidth on the > > fly...' > > > > > > now, we know locations-based CAC can't do that, we are looking > for > > > > > > BRQs and we have to use a GK and enable BRQs in CCM. > > > > > > > > > > > > The example is probably a bad one, but it is the only one I can > > think of. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do have a question tho... I have heard from people that the > CCMs > > are > > > > > > slow and nearly unresponsive... so, it can take 2 or 3 minutes > for > > a > > > > > > page to load. Is this true? Whee did you take it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Mark Snow has an example script on the DVDs, that looks > like > > it > > > > > > would take a few hrs to configure on the lab... even if you > knew > > > > > > scripting... the requirements seem straightforward, but then he > > adds > > > > > > extra steps to the script... that seem to be from IPCC > Scripting > > Best > > > > > > Practices... and all for probably only 4 points on the test... > it > > > > > > seems like it would be almost impossible to get any points from > > that > > > > > > scenario... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Devildoc < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had my first attempt at the Voice CCIE lab last week, > and > > of > > > > > course, > > > > > > > i failed. I knew right away after the lab that i > failed. The > > reason > > > > > why I > > > > > > > failed was not due to the lack of or inadequate amount of > > knowledge that > > > > > I > > > > > > > possessed but rather the lack of time. I was so nervous and > > stressed out > > > > > > > that I tumbled clumsily throughout the day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion, the lab was not tricky or even difficult. I > > actually > > > > > think > > > > > > > that i over-studied for the lab. The Proctor Workbook and > the > > Bootcamp > > > > > well > > > > > > > prepared me for the lab, so there was no problem with the > > knowledge > > > > > there. > > > > > > > Having said that, i was dumbfounded when i got my scores > result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And here are my questions. Does anyone know how Cisco grade > > these > > > > > labs? > > > > > > > Is Cisco looking for a specific way to implement a solution > or > > any > > > > > method to > > > > > > > implement a solution would work as long as it satifies all of > the > > > > > > > requirements asked of you in the questions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason why i am asking these questions is because even > > though i did > > > > > not > > > > > > > complete the lab, I did complete some sections. I tested > those > > > > > completed > > > > > > > sections and verified that all requirements were met, and > still i > > > > > received > > > > > > > 0% for those completed sections. Shouldn't I have received > some > > points > > > > > for > > > > > > > those sections? I know that each question is worth ALL or NO > > point for > > > > > the > > > > > > > correct answer. However, there are many questions in a > section, > > and if > > > > > I > > > > > > > completed a section with all requirements met, then i would > think > > that > > > > > at > > > > > > > least i would get 1 or 2 questions right if not all. But i > see > > no point > > > > > > > awarded at all for the completed sections, so that means that > i > > must not > > > > > > > have gotten all questions in the section right to get > 0%. But > > how can > > > > > that > > > > > > > be since I tested it and verified that all requirements were > met > > and > > > > > that > > > > > > > the solutions that i implemented were working. This only > means > > that my > > > > > > > implemented methods were not what Cisco was looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have the similar experience or is it just me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep > extra > > copies. > > > > > > > Learn how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who > understand > > > > > binary, and those who don't" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand > > binary, and those who don't" > > > > > -- > "There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand > binary, and those who don't" > > > > ------------------------------ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. 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